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Rants: Coverdells, Paper, Faxes, USAA, Fidelity, and TD Ameritrade

April 11, 2016 by Lazy Man 2 Comments

Ever have one of those tasks that seems like it should be simple and then turns into a mess that eats up hours and days of your time? For the last month, I’ve been trying to do something really simple…

… open a Coverdell account for my oldest son.

Opening one for my youngest son took my wife under an hour with USAA. They have exactly the same circumstances, just different names and Social Security numbers. So you’d think you could simply say, “Open one for the oldest son too.”

For some unknown reason USAA’s system got stuck in the application process. We reached a screen where we supposed to have a drop-down of the oldest’s and the youngest’s name. However, it displayed a blank entry and the youngest’s name. After hours and three calls into USAA, they admitted there was a problem, but they weren’t able to fix it. We could probably have spent many more hours and many more calls getting it fixed, but it seemed easier to just move to a different bank. After all we were able to get the youngest set up in an hour with USAA… another bank should be as efficient.

My wife next went to a local Navy Federal which can set them up. Unfortunately the Coverdell person only works one day a week and we were busy that day. We didn’t want to lose another week as we have to get the account set up before tax day to make the contributions for the 2015 tax year.

I told my wife that I’d take the task over. (In hindsight, it might not have been my best idea.)

My first thought was to go to Fidelity. I already have a Solo 401k with them and as one of the biggest banks, they seemed like the best bet. A Coverdell isn’t very common nowadays. In most cases, a 529 plan is a better option. Well, it seems that Fidelity believes that Coverdells are completely useless, because they no longer offer them.

Fortunately, as a personal finance blogger, I know what sites I can trust and Jonathan from My Money Blog has a list of best brokers for Coverdells. I noticed TD Ameritrade on the list. Since I have a Roth IRA with them dating back to 2002 when they bought Datek, I figured I’d give them a shot.

I went to the website and followed all the prompts to open a new Coverdell. I was expecting it to work like USAA where I’d open it all online, especially since I’m an existing customer. Unfortunately, TD Ameritrade seems to work by creating a PDF form that you have send to them. While they claimed that they could pre-fill my application from my existing information, they could only produce a blank PDF application.

I spent an hour filling out the application. It’s a typical application except for the page on trading options. Trading options in a Coverdell seems weird to me. The contributions are limited to $2000 a year and the purpose, to fund an education, does seem to lend itself to making such speculative investments. It really doesn’t seem like it should be a significant portion of the application, but it was. I think they should assume that people don’t want to trade options unless they specifically choose to fill out additional paperwork and send that in.

I printed out the application, wrote a check (with an additional contribution form), and put it in something called an envelope with “postage” for it to be delivered very slowly to TD Ameritrade for their review.

I was happy to finally cross it off my list because I was going on vacation (which is why you didn’t too many posts from me last week).

Halfway through the vacation I got notice from TD Ameritrade that it wasn’t able to open the account due to a missing signature. I think I signed everything, but there’s a chance that I only signed the options agreement and not the main application. That’s my fault, but honestly I’m surprised that’s the only error they found as it was an extensive application with no error checking that you’d get if they simply did it online like USAA.

While on vacation, I didn’t have easy access to printing documents like I do at home. I was away from the hotel for about 16 hours of the day which would have been a natural solution (albeit at a likely high expense).

I tried to convince TD Ameritrade to process it since they at least had my signature in one place, but they wouldn’t budge. You’d think that in 2016, we’d have a digital signature solution that very big financial companies could use… especially if you already have an account with that very big financial company.

I decided to wait until I got back from vacation. Today is the first business day since I’ve been back, so it was time to pick it up and give it another shot.

Fortunately, I had saved the PDF with all the information, so it was just a matter of printing it, signing it, and faxing it. Mailing isn’t really an option, because we’re now down to one week until the tax day deadline. I’ve never been able to get faxing to work with our VOIP phone. I decided it would be easiest to go to the local Kinko’s FedEx Office and use their fax. TD Ameritrade’s fax is toll-free so it doesn’t cost anything other than overhead for FedEx to send it. They really don’t need an employee since I’d be doing the faxing myself.

Unfortunately the cost was about $1.50 a page. I’m sure some people would have paid the $12 just to the end this headache, but I couldn’t support that pricing on principle. One page was just fine print and I would have been tempted to save the $1.50 to leave it off, but I couldn’t risk wasting $10.50 for an incomplete application only to have TD Amertitrade tell me that I need to fax the complete thing again.

I left and went home to look for other options. I was able to scan the signed as a PDF and use a free service from MyFax.com to send it. They needed my email address which probably means that I’ll be spammed forever (I used my junk email account), but it got the job done…

… or at least I think it did. We’ll see if TD Ameritrade will finally open the account and deposit the check that I sent now nearly two weeks ago.

Why a Coverdell?

Some of you might be asking why I would open a Coverdell in the first place. Coverdells can be used for a wider variety of educational expenses such as computers. Also, they can be used for private high school where 529s can not. Who knows if that’s in the cards for our kids… they are only 2 and 3 years old. However, it seems like smart idea to have the option. We can always use it for college if that doesn’t pan out.

If you are still reading this rant, you are some kind of saint. I usually don’t like to complain, but I had to get this out of my system. I’m allowed a few financial rants a year, right?

I’ll write about Coverdells more in the future. If this had gone smoothly, I would have been writing about them today.

Filed Under: College, Investing Tagged With: Coverdell, fax, Fidelity, td ameritrade, USAA

Play the Annual Invest Lazy Man’s Money Game

July 29, 2011 by Lazy Man 21 Comments

Last year, around this time, I asked readers to invest my money. I’ve decided to turn this into an annual post – at least as long as I qualify for a Roth IRA.

Requisite Financial Background:

  • I have $4000 from my 2007 Roth IRA to invest. I know I should have my 2008 contribution to invest as well, but I’m still scraping up that money.
  • I do believe in a good asset allocation. I currently have 1/4th of my Roth IRA money in Vanguard Small-Cap (Ticker: VB), 1/4th in Vanguard Total Stock Market (Ticker: VTI), 1/4th in iShares MSCI EAFE Index Fund (Ticker: EFA), 1/8th in Vanguard Health Care ETF (Ticker: VHT), and 1/8th in Technology SPDR (Ticker: XLK)
  • For this exercise don’t consider other retirement accounts (assume they are diversified). Also assume that as this is a Roth IRA that I plan to leave this money for 30+ years (I’m 32).
  • I have my money in a TD Ameritrade account, where I pay a $10 commission for each trade. I obviously want to keep my trades down. At some point, I hope to move this money to a Zecco account so that I can trade without paying commissions – just a $30 annual cost.

What I’m looking for:

  • An ETF – I don’t mind mutual funds, but I like ETFs better for this brokerage account. I really feel more comfortable with stocks. I’m not looking for a stock, I don’t feel that it fits my diversified policy
  • Low expenses – For the most part, I’ve kept expenses down. I’d like to keep it that way.
  • Something of a good value – I’m not much of a growth investor. I currently favor a sector that is down and out, but not a buggy whip that might never rebound. This isn’t a hard and fast rule, but it’s a preference.
  • A Standard Investment – I’m not looking to buy options or sell calls. I don’t have enough experience in these kinds of investments to be comfortable with them.

Just to be sure, I won’t invest in just anything that people comment back with. However, last year I did end up going with the suggestions that people had given (even though I was already thinking in that direction).

Filed Under: Investing Tagged With: Asset Allocation, brokerage account, ishares msci eafe index, ishares msci eafe index fund, msci eafe index, msci eafe index fund, retirement accounts, roth ira, stock market ticker, td ameritrade, Vanguard

Apologies to SmartyPig

October 21, 2009 by Lazy Man 9 Comments

On Friday I went a little off the handle reviewing SmartyPig’s registration process. I got frustrated by the many security steps that I had to take before finally getting locked out because my information didn’t match the information in Equifax/SmartyPig’s database.

What I should have said is that many online banking security systems are not user friendly nowadays – and it’s not their fault. The fear of identity theft has driven everyone including regulators to more and more stringent standards. What confuses me is that not every bank has the expansive security process. I have accounts with Bank of America and TD Ameritrade. These account have thousands of dollars in them. These companies are worth billions of dollars – how can they not be required to implement these security systems? It makes no sense that a smaller start-up like SmartyPig, with a business plan that would lead to smaller accounts, should have to be more secure (and I don’t buy that they want to have this process in place).

Back in 2004, I worked for a company that created cell phone applications that utilized the GPS in some phones. It was a tremendously difficult business as only a small subset of phones were GPS enabled, and cell phone carriers didn’t want allow customers to install these applications on their phones (because they’d be the one that would get complaints if it didn’t work out). It was a frustrating time for the whole industry. I feel for SmartyPig – it seems like a similar situation to me. The comments from others showed that these extensive registration/login processes are frustrating customers. It’s not to the same degree, but when you are required to frustrate people, you are facing an uphill battle.

I don’t know if it came across on Friday, but I was particularly critical of SmartyPig. I had hoped to give them a review that would help them advance their product. It appears they will be taking my suggestion to reword the requirement of a driver’s license to include a state issued ID. I would like to see them be able to take a passport ID or a military ID in absence of those as well. Overall it’s a minor issue as most adults will have required ID. You’ll notice I stressed “adults” there. It would seem to me that the SmartyPig service would be popular amongst teens saving up for their first car or a video game system. Yet this target audience likely doesn’t have the state IDs necessary to sign up. I’m sure the SmartyPig team knows this and are looking at ways to address the youth market.

In the coming days and weeks, perhaps I’ll be able to set up an account manually and give a full review of the service.

Filed Under: Review Tagged With: bank of america, banking security, equifax, identity theft, online banking, regulators, security, security systems, SmartyPig, td ameritrade

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