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To Ramit or Not To Ramit?

May 25, 2023 by Lazy Man 5 Comments

I hope everyone is excited for Memorial Day weekend. I can’t believe it’s here already. The kids will be out of school soon. We’re not too far from having a middle schooler.

I had been hoping to write a little more often, but the dog business has been busy. Also, my wife is traveling all the time now. Juggling the kids and their activities is a lot.

I don’t follow too many personal finance gurus these days. I’ve covered the basics. The gurus can be great if you are starting out. After a while, though, there are diminishing returns. That’s why I try to write about a new product or service that I’m enjoying.

One of the new things in personal finance is not really new – Ramit Sethi has been around forever, but he has a new Netflix show. I wasn’t expecting much, but it’s very, very good. No, it’s great! I love how he helps solve people’s money problems. He kind of guides them to the best solution for them. I think it’s great how he meets them where they are.

Ramit is a little complicated. While it seems pretty clear, he’s a personal finance guru now. There was a time when he came up with this thing called the Seagull Theory and wrote an article about how his website wasn’t about personal finnace. I think he kind of pivoted to psychology for a bit, but it seems clear back to personal finance.

I wanted to cover two bits of advice that he goes into

Ramit on Rent vs. Buy

Ramit is firmly in the rent camp. It’s okay to buy, but he thinks most people benefit from having the freedom to rent. As he says in the Netflix show, renting is the ceiling of what you’ll pay. You won’t pay more. When you own a home, a mortgage is the floor. You have to pay to fix stuff up.

It’s a good point, but it really only works for that lease. A lot of people saw rents go up a lot in the last year. Of course, many of them complained. As Beyonce might say, they should have put a ring on it (buy instead of rent). There are a lot of people in our area of Newport, Rhode Island, that can’t afford to live anywhere in the city. They are completely priced out of the market and have to move away from their friends and family. That’s a sad situation.

If we wanted to rent our house now, it would be $3500 a month. Our mortgage is a 15-year one, but it’s still only around $3000. If we had a 30-year mortgage, maybe we’d only be paying $2400 or so. We’re about four years away from just paying the property taxes, which is a lot less. We still have all that pesky maintenance to take care of.

The other thing is that we’ve built up a lot of equity. We bought it for $400,000, and we now have over $700,000 in equity. We could sell and use the money to pay rent for years.

Ramit’s argument may be that when you rent, you can save and invest the extra money that you aren’t paying on the mortgage. This is great, but I know a lot of people won’t save and invest. Maybe they’ll start to, but then life happens and derails them. Homeownership forces you to save. That’s why most Americans have most of their net worth in their homes.

This may sound like I’m against renting. We actually rented a home when we lived in Silicon Valley for six years. You needed a lot of money to get a downpayment on a home competing with the tech millionaires.

In the end, you have to do what’s right for your situation. It helps to run the numbers. It also helps to understand all the angles.

Ramit on Teaching Children About Money

Ramit recently went on a rant that we shouldn’t teach kids personal finance. Here’s his rant:

Should personal finance be taught in HS???

Thanks to @ramit for joining @awealthofcs and @michaelbatnick on this special episode of TYB! Link down below for the full episode out now on YT????

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— The Compound (@TheCompoundNews) May 22, 2023

Obviously, I don’t agree as I have a Kid Wealth to show for that.

He complains that high school teachers aren’t going to teach it. Or that they would take away something. You can teach compound interest as part of math class. It doesn’t require taking anything away. However, I suppose if you wanted to take something away, you could remove trigonometry.

He also asks who is going to create the curriculum. Fortunately, there are tons of curricula already out there. He makes a poor assumption that bad banks would create the curriculum. Nope, I don’t think either Wells Fargo or Bank of America has one.

Then he pivots to an unrelated rant about politics. It’s very weird whataboutism. I guess you could say that we shouldn’t teach kids to read either because books are political now. That doesn’t make any sense.

Finally, he says that he’s failed to teach kids about money. He then says that if he can’t do it, then the average teacher stands no chance. I’m really good at adding two numbers together, but when it comes to teaching kids to do it, I’m probably not that good. Do you know why? I have taken no classes in education. Personal finance is relevant to kids because they want to be able to buy stuff.

It’s just wrong on every level.

However, with all that said, go watch his Netflix show. I think he makes a lot more great points.

Filed Under: Celebrities Tagged With: Ramit

He Saves 90% of His Income

November 14, 2019 by Lazy Man 2 Comments

Chances are you’ve never heard of Joejuan Williams.

You might not follow the NFL. If you do, he isn’t on your fantasy team. He’s on a team that you probably hate. He’s probably the 35th best player on the 53-man roster.

Joejuan Williams plays defense for the New England Patriots. Growing up a Bostonian, I’ve been rooting for that team for almost 35 years.

By the end of this post, I think you’ll agree he’s something a lot more special than any of that sounds.

I gave away the goods in the title. He saves 90% of his income. That’s extraordinary in his profession. Professional athletes tend to blow all of their money faster than you might think. There’s a great ESPN documentary on it called Broke

Yes, Williams has a four-year, $6.6 million contract with 4.1 million dollars guaranteed. Living off of 10% of that kind of income might not sound too amazing for you and I. However, at his nearly $500,000 salary this year, he spends around $50,000. That’s not too crazy for a 22 year old.

What made Williams make this decision when so many of his peers go in the opposite direction and spend all their money? From this Boston Globe article it was simple a financial literacy class in high school:

“Joejuan Williams still remembers learning about mutual funds in a personal finance class he took as a junior at Father Ryan High School in Nashville.

‘I just raised my hand and was like, “So, you’re saying we can sit on money and watch it grow?”‘ Williams, now 21, recalled. ‘[My teacher] was like, “Basically, yes.” I was like, “Bet, sign me up.”‘
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The whole Boston Globe article is worth reading. Williams had always been an extreme saver due to the difficult circumstances he grew up in. He had a need and desire to learn more about money and the opportunity presented itself in that personal finance class.

He keeps his expenses down (after paying off his mom’s student loans and car) and invests 90% of his money. He’s looking to pay for his mom’s home next. It sounds like he’s learned from the Broke documentary:

“I want to be set in the future when I’m not working. Grind now, sacrifice now, be happy later. I’d rather live like a prince for the rest of my life than live like a king for my NFL career and then go back to square zero.”

He knows that in the NFL, square zero can be just around the corner. One of the longest running jokes is that the NFL stands for “Not For Long.” Just this week, ESPN wrote about the 5-year anniversary of The Jonas Gray story.

Jonas Gray was another Patriots who came out of nowhere to have one of the best games in football history – only to disappear into obscurity the following week… and every week since. Reading the story of Gray, you realize how much luck plays an impact in your life. He caught just about every kind of bad break you can think of and at 29, he’s just trying to get another chance where he can prove he belongs in the NFL on his own skill.

When Williams isn’t grinding away on the football field, he hopes to create a formal financial literacy program to reach students and get them excited about learning about money. (Joejuan, if you are reading this, contact me).

For now, he’s got his work cut out for him on the Patriots. They’ve got a lot of depth at Williams’ position, which means that he doesn’t get much playing time.

I’m not worried about the football aspect of Williams’ career though. For all these words about his money habits, he’s just as invested (pun intended) in the game of football itself. Before news got out about his personal finance accomplishments, it was suggested he might be the NFL’s biggest football fan. He can often be found watching kids from kindergarten to high school play football. That’s simply not the kind of thing that NFL players do on their time off.

Final Thoughts

I love to share inspiring personal finance stories. Some may argue that because Williams’ income is so high, it’s not too inspiring. I don’t buy that. It’s very different than what almost every professional athlete does.

The other thing I want to focus on is the role that personal finance education played in Williams’ life. I’ve had some conversations on Twitter and they feel that kids aren’t interested in personal finance education and requiring them to take it in school isn’t going to change anything… they just won’t listen. I have always argued that if you pitch the class as a way to make money doing nothing, kids will generally be interested. I think it would certainly interest them a lot more than trigonometry, right?

Filed Under: Celebrities Tagged With: football, Joejuan Williams, patriots

Finimize is your Essential 3 Minute Daily Finance Read

July 11, 2019 by Lazy Man 1 Comment

Today I want to tell you about one of the three free newsletters that I read every day without fail. The other two aren’t money-related, so perhaps I’ll cover them another time. I’ve been a subscriber for more than 2 years. During that time’s it’s become incredibly popular with more than 400,000 subscribers.

You know those clickbait titles that make all sorts of crazy claims? This isn’t one of them. Finimize really is best described as “your essential 3 minute daily finance read.” (Those are my words, but I fully expect them to steal borrow them for their future marketing purposes.)

Did I mention that it’s free? I did? Good. It’s easy to miss that very important word with all the other information I’m putting out there.

When you sign up for Finizmize you’ll likely get an email like this one (though it’s possible the welcome has changed in 2 years):

Finimize Welcome

What do you get when you subscribe?

Every morning, I get a financial email that focuses on just two of the main things that happened in the markets. Sometimes it’s a stock. Sometimes it’s a snapshot of an economic report. It always has a section “Why Should I Care?” that explains in plain language what’s really going on.
This morning one of the focuses was on the odds of a recession. It cited this chart from the NY Federal Reserve. You’ll want to scroll down on that for the really amazing part. The Fed has pretty much nailed all the major recessions… and we’re at the point where it’s looking like the next one is upon us.

I know people have been saying that for years, but it’s “next level” to see an authoritative source present a 60-year historical chart showing that a recession is coming.

How could you use this information? Maybe you could take a more conservative investment approach? Personally, I’m going to be shifting some money into bonds. Another possibility is to sell some stock and hold some cash. I’m not going to suggest what you should do, but give you some ideas of what you could do.

The other thing that I love about Finimize is that it is only a 3-minute time investment. We’re all busy, and even financial nerds like me have to think twice about spending 20 minutes on an in-depth financial read.

I’ll highlight a few more things from Finimize in the upcoming weeks and months, but for now I’ll take their cue and keep it sort and sweet. Sign up with this link or the button below:


Join Finizmize!

Filed Under: News Tagged With: Finimize

Jay Leno ($13 Million Mansion and 180 Cars) Says He’s Frugal

March 27, 2019 by Lazy Man 13 Comments

Jay Leno is my neighbor. He’s not my next-door neighbor, but our small Newport, RI community consists of around 60,000 people. Even though I’ve never met him, I hear he’s an extremely nice guy. That’s why this is a uniquely difficult article to write.

A couple of days ago I was reading Money Magazine and came across the following article:

Jay Leno Money Magazine
(Note: I’m including the article here because the free online version from a year earlier is a little less tone-deaf and contains the same basic information. My fair-use to criticize is dependent on the print version above.)

I haven’t seen a money/celebrity article this bad since the famous Men’s Health/Erin Burnett article of late 2007. A few days after I pointed it out it started to make headline news.

This isn’t as bad as that one was, but it reminded me of it. (Now I wonder if the Kylie Jenner self-made billionaire mess was as bad.)

Let’s start with the subheader, “The comedian enjoys the fastlane – but lives like he’s on his last dime.”

I had trouble reconciling that with this piece of news from about 15 months ago, Jay Leno just bought a $13.5 million oceanfront mansion in Newport, R.I. — take a look inside

Here are some nuggets from the article according to the real estate listing:

A gated entrance and winding drive leads up to the estate, which sits on a 9-acre lot and features 15,851 square feet of living space. The home has 12 bedrooms, 12 full bathrooms and three half-baths, according to the listing. It’s also packed with luxe amenities, including a carriage house, walled garden and tennis court.

(Grrr… no Oxford comma!)

There’s more to the description, but a $13.5 million home tells you all you need to know. Using standard estimates on maintenance of a home of 1% of annual price per year, he’ll spend about $135,000 a year just to keep it as it is. Maybe it’s even more with the extensive landscaping.

Jay Leno’s “last dime” must be Scrooge McDuck lucky one.

Originally, I thought that the online version of May 15, 2018 was before he bought the mansion, but it was after.

The Money Magazine article above also mentions that he has around 350 motor vehicles. That includes one he bought in 1999 for $800,000. That’s over 1.2 million in inflation-adjusted dollars today.

I found only one thing in the article that led me to believe he’s frugal. Leno says he doesn’t spend much on clothes.

Leno does make an attempt to preach good financial habits. He says that he never bought anything before he could afford it, never bought anything on credit, and that cash is king. Unfortunately, these are all things that Paris Hilton could say as soon as she was old enough to talk. While Leno made his fortune himself, it’s doesn’t mean he’s frugal. Those financial habits are very easy to follow… if you have a net worth of $350 million.

The Money Magazine article finished up with a quote of “I live pretty frugally.”

If a $13.5 million home and a $70 million car collection*, is living frugally then, you too, can be frugal!

I’m having a lot of difficulty in trying to stretch that to be frugal… even in celebrity terms. I haven’t seen his car show, but if someone is making a show to show off dozens of millions of dollars of your purchases… you can’t say you “live pretty frugally.”

I’m almost having a lot of trouble trying to figure out what feels worse to me about this. Should it be:

  1. Jay Leno himself – I actually think that Jay Leno might deserve the least blame. He’s just saying things like they are for him and giving a little background in his past.
  2. Jay Leno’s publicist – Shouldn’t his publicist take a look at this and say, “Ummm, Jay, this comes off like an alcoholic claiming he isn’t one because he rarely drinks tequila. Instead he only drinks 2 liters of vodka by noon each day”?
  3. Money Magazine – Shouldn’t an editor at Money Magazine take a look at this and say, “We lose a lot of credibility when we blindly equate spending dozens of millions of dollars with being frugal. Only Larry Ellison** can relate when he reads this. The rest of our audience is going to collectively think WTF“?

I’m also confused about why Money Magazine would recycle this interview from about a year ago now. I wonder if they ran out of production time and quickly edited something old as filler.

I’m going to leave those questions up to you, the reader to answer. Let me know your thoughts in comments.

And if I’ve been a little harsh to Jay Leno here and he’s reading it, hopefully he has a sense of humor ;-). I’m not nearly as bad as John Oliver was a little over a week ago:

* This is estimated by adding the 50 more cars mentioned in this interview to the $50 million mentioned at that link.

** Larry Ellison is one of my other rich “neighbors”.

Filed Under: Celebrities, Frugal Tagged With: Jay Leno

Let’s Talk About the Self-Made Billionaire Kylie Jenner

March 12, 2019 by Lazy Man 2 Comments

Last week Forbes published what has become its second annual clickbait attempt. It was clearly success and I’m upset with myself for continuing to give them attention, even if it’s negative attention. Trust me though, there’s a good reason I’m writing about this.

Of course, I’m talking about how Forbes is labeling Kylie Jenner as the youngest self-made billionaire. I think most people look at “self-made billionaire” and laugh for reasons that I hope are obvious. Her sister, Kim Kardashian, and the whole family have been household names since 2007… and while I have never watched the TV show, I don’t think anyone credits the success of the family to ten year old Kylie. If Honey Boo Boo made the whole family tens and/or hundreds of millions of dollars, I’d give her credit for being self-made. There’s a sizable gap between the Kardashian’s success and Honey Boo Boo.

(Note: I have to pause to make a disclaimer here. I’ve got zero hate for Kylie here. I don’t think she asked for the “self-made” label from Forbes. Even if she did, I’d still blame Forbes for granting it. I’d like to think that Kylie’s focus is, rightfully, on the word after the label. A billion dollars is a billion dollars.)

When I saw the self-made label being applied to Kylie Jenner, I instantly thought, “ShoeMoney!”

I’m sure you did too, right? (Probably not.)

One of the benefits of having been blogging since before Kim K debuted on The Simple Life is that I have a history of articles that most cover inane stuff. One of them was the phenomenon of an internet marketer named ShoeMoney.

ShoeMoney System

Back in 2010, ShoeMoney wrote an article about he built a million dollar product without Google. The product was The ShoeMoney System.

In 2010, I wrote that I’m not a fan of internet marketers. The reason why is that The ShoeMoney System was significantly promoted on the very popular ShoeMoney blog (which was in Google). It was also listed as a million dollars in revenue, not profit, which can be two very different things.

Today ShoeMoneySystem.com redirects to a blog post no ShoeMoney.com that has been taken down and gives and error. That’s the million dollar business.

Obviously, Kylie’s make-up business has a lot more staying power. I only want to compare the two, because neither seems to be self-made. Instead it seems to be a product of significant promotion from another source.

Is Kylie Really Self-Made?

I’d say there are four (maybe more) reasons behind Kylie’s success… and three of them shouldn’t be credited to Kylie.

1. Kylie Jenner’s Famous Family

It could be reasonably said that she was a product of her sister, Kim. In fact, when I looked up the Kardashians’ family net worth, People magazine wrote in the Kim Kardasian profile, “And hey, [Kim] can pretty much take credit for all of her siblings’ fortunes.”

It’s hard to make a case for being self-made if someone else can take credit for all your success.

It’s worth noting that Rob Kardashian is worth an estimated $10 million. So if you want to make an argument that Kylie’s a self-made billionaire, I think you also have to make a case that Rob Kardashian put together his $10 million fortune himself. For some reason, I don’t see anyone making that case.

2. Zuckerberg’s Social Media Empire

Fittingly, much of Jenner’s financial success is due to Forbes former youngest self-made billionaire, Mark Zuckerberg. The Washington Post (paywall) has a great article asking if is “self-made” really true. I think the key quote was at the end:

Even Jenner appeared to be aware that she isn’t fully self-made, telling Forbes Tuesday that her success was due in part to her existing influence.

‘It’s the power of social media,’ she said. ‘I had such a strong reach before I was able to start anything.’

It’s not that Zuckerberg invented all of social media, but Facebook (and Instagram of course) is the biggest platform by far. And Kylie Jenner is the highest paid Instagram influencer. They are estimated to be worth a million dollars each. If she makes a thousand Instagram posts, that’s a billion dollars without the need of a make-up company at all.

Obviously Jenner deserves significant credit for developing and cultivating such a strong social media presence. We just have to acknowledge, as she did herself, that “it’s the power of [the] social media” tool and family fame.

3. Seed Beauty

I wanted to learn a little more about Kylie Jenner’s make-up line. I was curious if she was really spending time in the garage testing out the formulas and refining the ingredients.

As you might be able to imagine Kylie Jenner isn’t spending her time in a make-up lab. The story behind the make-up is all that came from a company called Seed Beauty that “was built on the back of a 60-year-old family business.”

It turns out that Seed Beauty is extremely involved in the make-up. According to that article:

[Seed Beauty] would become a true partner of its brands, adding capital, brand incubation, and fulfillment to its hands-on offerings.

‘Brand incubation’, Laura explains, is a level up from the traditional celebrity brand and manufacturer relationship. White label or private label, as these arrangements are often referred, are largely transactional.

Don’t call Seed Beauty ‘white label’. The company is working hand in hand with brands to grow them from the ground up.

…

The paradigm shift, thanks to social influence, is that anyone can amass huge audiences, suddenly finding themselves in a position to monetize that influence. What do you do with an audience, nothing to sell to them, and no business experience?

Laura recognized an opportunity.

Does that sound like Kylie Jenner’s self-made business?

4. Kylie Jenner’s Smart and Hard Work

That article about Seed Beauty had a lot more to say than what I quoted in the last section. It said that Jenner plays a very active role in the business. It’s clear that she’s involved in all the decisions and that she isn’t just slapping her name on a product.

Importantly, Jenner set this all in motion by seeking out Seed Beauty and pitching them.

There’s a phrase that underpins my entire website, “Work smarter, not harder.” It’s clear to see that Kylie has worked smart. I don’t know enough to say whether she’s worked hard. From my position on the outside, it doesn’t appear like it. However, it’s not fair to make that assessment from a distance.

Forbes’ Definition of Self-Made

From all the above, it is clear that I don’t agree with the label of “self-made.”

That Washington Post article cited why Forbes used the words “self-made.”

Forbes actually put together a 10 level scale going from different types of inherited money to self-made. Here’s are definitions and examples of each level:

1: Inherited fortune but not working to increase it: Laurene Powell Jobs

2: Inherited fortune and has a role managing it: Forrest Mars Jr.

3: Inherited fortune and helping to increase it marginally: Penny Pritzker

4: Inherited fortune and increasing it in a meaningful way: Henry Ross Perot Jr.

5: Inherited small or medium-size business and made it into a ten-digit fortune: George Kaiser

6: Hired or hands-off investor who didn’t create the business: Meg Whitman

7: Self-made who got a head start from wealthy parents and moneyed background: Rupert Murdoch

8: Self-made who came from a middle- or upper-middle-class background: Mark Zuckerberg

9: Self-made who came from a largely working-class background; rose from little to nothing: Eddie Lampert

10: Self-made who not only grew up poor but also overcame significant obstacles: Oprah Winfrey

The problem that I see with this list is that Kylie Jenner could be seen as either #4 or #5. The fortune or business that she inherited is the family’s entertainment empire and social capital that goes with it. She could also be seen as the #6 who hired Seed Beauty.

One of the dangers here is that it looks like Kylie Jenner is in the middle. However, the first three categories are essentially the same to me. Also, I think we can agree that 99.999% (and many more 9s) of peole start in categories 8-10. Even the number of people in category 8 is pretty small compared to 9 and 10.

You can think of it as a very short and very wide pyramid with a almost everyone at the bottom and Kylie arguably starting at the top (or so close to the top that it isn’t worth dissecting).

Conclusion

I think this is one of those cases where it’s a combination of things.

It isn’t like a bag of a billion dollars fell right into Jenner’s lap. However, she’s obviously been in a very unique environment that was essential to her success. She’s used that opportunity to multiply her fortune many, many times over.

After nearly 1500 words, I think there’s still a lot more discussion to be had. Please don’t be shy and comment below.

Filed Under: Celebrities Tagged With: Kylie Jenner

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