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	<title>Comments on: Why I&#8217;ll Try to Buy a Palm Pre Tomorrow</title>
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		<title>By: Mobile Developer</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/why-ill-try-to-buy-a-palm-pre-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-140948</link>
		<dc:creator>Mobile Developer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is probably way too early to know much about the webOS versus any other mobile operating system.  The reviews on the hardware of the Pre have not been very good.  I went to the local Sprint store and was impressed with webOS, but the keyboard was the deal breaker for me.  The top row of keys are simply too close to the edge of the device making it very difficult to type.  The idea is good, but windows mobile is still the stongest competitor in my mind and with partners like HTC and others they will be tough to catch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is probably way too early to know much about the webOS versus any other mobile operating system.  The reviews on the hardware of the Pre have not been very good.  I went to the local Sprint store and was impressed with webOS, but the keyboard was the deal breaker for me.  The top row of keys are simply too close to the edge of the device making it very difficult to type.  The idea is good, but windows mobile is still the stongest competitor in my mind and with partners like HTC and others they will be tough to catch.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/why-ill-try-to-buy-a-palm-pre-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-139939</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 01:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Journey,

I was out of contract... for quite some time now.  I&#039;ve been waiting for a decent upgrade to the Treo 700P.  There may be some tips on my article about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/save-money-on-cell-phones/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;saving money on cell phones&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Journey,</p>
<p>I was out of contract&#8230; for quite some time now.  I&#8217;ve been waiting for a decent upgrade to the Treo 700P.  There may be some tips on my article about <a href="http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/save-money-on-cell-phones/" rel="nofollow">saving money on cell phones</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: My Journey</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/why-ill-try-to-buy-a-palm-pre-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-139937</link>
		<dc:creator>My Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 01:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you out of contract? I Have sprint also and would love to upgrade...know any hints to get the upgrade and money off?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you out of contract? I Have sprint also and would love to upgrade&#8230;know any hints to get the upgrade and money off?</p>
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		<title>By: kosmo</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/why-ill-try-to-buy-a-palm-pre-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-139910</link>
		<dc:creator>kosmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Palm could write their own desktop software :)  It doesn&#039;t actually need to interact with iTunes.  I like iTunes, but there&#039;s really nothing particularly revolutionary about it - it simply ties together a few pieces of functionality.  They could even add the ability to import iTunes library to their own software.

Thus, the barrier to entry (another big test of monopoly) is really quite low.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Palm could write their own desktop software :)  It doesn&#8217;t actually need to interact with iTunes.  I like iTunes, but there&#8217;s really nothing particularly revolutionary about it &#8211; it simply ties together a few pieces of functionality.  They could even add the ability to import iTunes library to their own software.</p>
<p>Thus, the barrier to entry (another big test of monopoly) is really quite low.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/why-ill-try-to-buy-a-palm-pre-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-139840</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 04:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how does Palm get iTunes/Palm Pre interactivity?  Pretty much anyway you cut it, the music domination of the iPod gives the iPhone an advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how does Palm get iTunes/Palm Pre interactivity?  Pretty much anyway you cut it, the music domination of the iPod gives the iPhone an advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: kosmo</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/why-ill-try-to-buy-a-palm-pre-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-139837</link>
		<dc:creator>kosmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t say that iTunes was a driver - I said that the iTunes/iPod interactivity was the driver.

I&#039;m sure that Apple would be happy to redirect the lawsuit ... but the PR damage would be done.  Frying isn&#039;t likely, but something like accidental deletion of data is.

Honestly, though, they don&#039;t need to actively block it - there are other ways to skin that cat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say that iTunes was a driver &#8211; I said that the iTunes/iPod interactivity was the driver.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that Apple would be happy to redirect the lawsuit &#8230; but the PR damage would be done.  Frying isn&#8217;t likely, but something like accidental deletion of data is.</p>
<p>Honestly, though, they don&#8217;t need to actively block it &#8211; there are other ways to skin that cat.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/why-ill-try-to-buy-a-palm-pre-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-139830</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gloomberg,

I think there&#039;s something to be said to having a device that is similar, but better.  For instance Palm came out with a Windows Mobile device or two and it was trying to compete with other Windows Mobile devices.

The Palm Pre is different enough from an iPhone (gestures, webOS, Synergy, etc.) to qualify as &quot;completely different&quot;, I think.  However, it also should compete because they are similar devices (smart phones that offer a lot more than the calling experience - web, apps, e-mail, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gloomberg,</p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s something to be said to having a device that is similar, but better.  For instance Palm came out with a Windows Mobile device or two and it was trying to compete with other Windows Mobile devices.</p>
<p>The Palm Pre is different enough from an iPhone (gestures, webOS, Synergy, etc.) to qualify as &#8220;completely different&#8221;, I think.  However, it also should compete because they are similar devices (smart phones that offer a lot more than the calling experience &#8211; web, apps, e-mail, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/why-ill-try-to-buy-a-palm-pre-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-139828</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t see iTunes as a driver for iPod.  I had used iTunes before I got an iPod.  I can&#039;t imagine using HP drivers without a printer.  iTunes was designed to manage music - not solely to upload music to iPod.

I don&#039;t really get the iTunes frying a Pre.  If I plug in my old Treo, what if iTunes fries that?  Under no circumstances should iTunes fry anything.  Apple would probably love it if iTunes fired a Pre.  They&#039;d be more than happy to redirect that lawsuit to Palm.

Apple can&#039;t really come out of this looking good, and I think that&#039;s the point.  If they block the Pre, they have to come up with a reason why they are hurting consumers without it sounding greedy.  If they let it go, they potentially put themselves in a worse position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see iTunes as a driver for iPod.  I had used iTunes before I got an iPod.  I can&#8217;t imagine using HP drivers without a printer.  iTunes was designed to manage music &#8211; not solely to upload music to iPod.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really get the iTunes frying a Pre.  If I plug in my old Treo, what if iTunes fries that?  Under no circumstances should iTunes fry anything.  Apple would probably love it if iTunes fired a Pre.  They&#8217;d be more than happy to redirect that lawsuit to Palm.</p>
<p>Apple can&#8217;t really come out of this looking good, and I think that&#8217;s the point.  If they block the Pre, they have to come up with a reason why they are hurting consumers without it sounding greedy.  If they let it go, they potentially put themselves in a worse position.</p>
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		<title>By: kosmo</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/why-ill-try-to-buy-a-palm-pre-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-139813</link>
		<dc:creator>kosmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also this ... suppose iTunes fries the Pre during an update.  This wouldn&#039;t be their fault, since you&#039;d be violating the license agreement, but some people would sue.  But Apple would save a big headache by just blocking everything but iPod, so avoid weird crap from happening.  I doubt it would happen with Pre, since Palm probably tests a lot (although if iTunes got an update tomorrow, you&#039;d be &quot;naked&quot; until Palm could test with the new version.)

But I could imagine a problem with products from some of the lower end vendors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also this &#8230; suppose iTunes fries the Pre during an update.  This wouldn&#8217;t be their fault, since you&#8217;d be violating the license agreement, but some people would sue.  But Apple would save a big headache by just blocking everything but iPod, so avoid weird crap from happening.  I doubt it would happen with Pre, since Palm probably tests a lot (although if iTunes got an update tomorrow, you&#8217;d be &#8220;naked&#8221; until Palm could test with the new version.)</p>
<p>But I could imagine a problem with products from some of the lower end vendors.</p>
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		<title>By: GloombergNews</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/why-ill-try-to-buy-a-palm-pre-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-139789</link>
		<dc:creator>GloombergNews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 04:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>companies are wasting time trying to compete with the iphone...

eventually they will surpass every RIMM product...give it time...

and wait til the new OS and new phone come out...

i really dont understand trying to compete...try something completely different or stay behind the curve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>companies are wasting time trying to compete with the iphone&#8230;</p>
<p>eventually they will surpass every RIMM product&#8230;give it time&#8230;</p>
<p>and wait til the new OS and new phone come out&#8230;</p>
<p>i really dont understand trying to compete&#8230;try something completely different or stay behind the curve</p>
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		<title>By: kosmo</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/why-ill-try-to-buy-a-palm-pre-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-139785</link>
		<dc:creator>kosmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If Windows could be thought of as a monopoly (it control what software ran on it), couldn’t the iTunes be considered one if it starts to block competition.&quot;

How&#039;s that?  Essentially, the iTunes/iPod interactivity is iTunes acting as a hardware driver.  Most software drivers only work with hardware from that vendor.  Does HP need to make sure that my printer driver will work with a Lexmark?

Also, the fact that there are a zillion viable competitors to iTunes makes it hard to claim a monopoly.  For example, you have managed to evade the &quot;monopoly&quot;, so you don&#039;t use it.

You&#039;re grossly oversimplifying the MS case.  If it was just that one issue, they would have been OK.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If Windows could be thought of as a monopoly (it control what software ran on it), couldn’t the iTunes be considered one if it starts to block competition.&#8221;</p>
<p>How&#8217;s that?  Essentially, the iTunes/iPod interactivity is iTunes acting as a hardware driver.  Most software drivers only work with hardware from that vendor.  Does HP need to make sure that my printer driver will work with a Lexmark?</p>
<p>Also, the fact that there are a zillion viable competitors to iTunes makes it hard to claim a monopoly.  For example, you have managed to evade the &#8220;monopoly&#8221;, so you don&#8217;t use it.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re grossly oversimplifying the MS case.  If it was just that one issue, they would have been OK.</p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Pre looks pretty cool, but in the end it&#039;s still just a Palm ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pre looks pretty cool, but in the end it&#8217;s still just a Palm ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/why-ill-try-to-buy-a-palm-pre-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-139780</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 00:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What loans might you be referring to bubba?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What loans might you be referring to bubba?</p>
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		<title>By: bubba</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/why-ill-try-to-buy-a-palm-pre-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-139778</link>
		<dc:creator>bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 00:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typing on the iPhone is easy, even with one hand.  And if you hack it, you can get alternative keyboards which aid in helping usability.   I wouldn&#039;t trade mine for the world.   It also helps that works fits the bill for it since I swapped it for my Blackberry.

Shouldn&#039;t you be paying off loans instead of buying phones? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typing on the iPhone is easy, even with one hand.  And if you hack it, you can get alternative keyboards which aid in helping usability.   I wouldn&#8217;t trade mine for the world.   It also helps that works fits the bill for it since I swapped it for my Blackberry.</p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t you be paying off loans instead of buying phones? :)</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/why-ill-try-to-buy-a-palm-pre-tomorrow/comment-page-1/#comment-139775</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 23:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure that Apple can block the Pre (in fact, sites have already explained how), the question is whether they will.  Plus, I could just stick with iTunes 8.2, which is proven to work and not upgrade.  That would be fine with me since I don&#039;t use iTunes now...

... except to marvel at slow it can make a computer.

If Windows could be thought of as a monopoly (it control what software ran on it), couldn&#039;t the iTunes be considered one if it starts to block competition.

Palm isn&#039;t looking for an advantage here, they just don&#039;t want to be at a disadvantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure that Apple can block the Pre (in fact, sites have already explained how), the question is whether they will.  Plus, I could just stick with iTunes 8.2, which is proven to work and not upgrade.  That would be fine with me since I don&#8217;t use iTunes now&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; except to marvel at slow it can make a computer.</p>
<p>If Windows could be thought of as a monopoly (it control what software ran on it), couldn&#8217;t the iTunes be considered one if it starts to block competition.</p>
<p>Palm isn&#8217;t looking for an advantage here, they just don&#8217;t want to be at a disadvantage.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 23:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am looking forwarding to reading your review of the Pre.  I have the Palm Centro which I can&#039;t live without so I am not sure if I am ready for a Pre upgrade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking forwarding to reading your review of the Pre.  I have the Palm Centro which I can&#8217;t live without so I am not sure if I am ready for a Pre upgrade.</p>
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		<title>By: Kosmo @ The Casual Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kosmo @ The Casual Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t looked into the issue a great deal, but don&#039;t be terribly surprised if Apple finds a way to block the Pre from syncing with iTunes.

How is there a monopoly with iPods?  There are plenty of choices for software that controls your music collection - you&#039;re not forced to use iTunes and the tight iPod integration :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t looked into the issue a great deal, but don&#8217;t be terribly surprised if Apple finds a way to block the Pre from syncing with iTunes.</p>
<p>How is there a monopoly with iPods?  There are plenty of choices for software that controls your music collection &#8211; you&#8217;re not forced to use iTunes and the tight iPod integration :)</p>
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