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		<title>By: Angry Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angry Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with most of these, Lazy Man, but here are a couple you missed.

1. Pay at the end- In today&#039;s online lifestyle you will see this a lot. You play a game online or do an online IQ test, etc. Answer all the questions, click all the right tabs and finally get to the &quot;last&quot; page only to discover that you must subscribe to a pay service to view results or request a minimum number of products/services from their sponsors. 

2. Hidden fees- This somewhat alludes to what CGC said about U-HAUL. Buy a product online at a great price, fill in all required fields such as credit card number, e-mail, physical address, etc. Then find out that after shipping/handling and many other services you will be charged twice or more what you initially expected to pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with most of these, Lazy Man, but here are a couple you missed.</p>
<p>1. Pay at the end- In today&#8217;s online lifestyle you will see this a lot. You play a game online or do an online IQ test, etc. Answer all the questions, click all the right tabs and finally get to the &#8220;last&#8221; page only to discover that you must subscribe to a pay service to view results or request a minimum number of products/services from their sponsors. </p>
<p>2. Hidden fees- This somewhat alludes to what CGC said about U-HAUL. Buy a product online at a great price, fill in all required fields such as credit card number, e-mail, physical address, etc. Then find out that after shipping/handling and many other services you will be charged twice or more what you initially expected to pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 03:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that sounds like any car rental place though.  I think the last car rental I had was something like $20 a day.  So I thought it would be about $150 for the week.  It was around $300 with the various fees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that sounds like any car rental place though.  I think the last car rental I had was something like $20 a day.  So I thought it would be about $150 for the week.  It was around $300 with the various fees.</p>
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		<title>By: CGC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CGC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 01:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>U-Haul, with their prominent $19.95 (plus mileage) in-town rental ads plastered on all their trucks. In reality they tag on so many extra fees you pay a minimum of about $50 plus mileage. The $19.95 is almost like some random number among the many others that appear on your bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U-Haul, with their prominent $19.95 (plus mileage) in-town rental ads plastered on all their trucks. In reality they tag on so many extra fees you pay a minimum of about $50 plus mileage. The $19.95 is almost like some random number among the many others that appear on your bill.</p>
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		<title>By: James Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a huge fan on the limited time offer.  Sounds too infomercial-like.  You never see companies like Apple do that.  Then again, I have seen Amazon do it, and they are legit.  Tough call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a huge fan on the limited time offer.  Sounds too infomercial-like.  You never see companies like Apple do that.  Then again, I have seen Amazon do it, and they are legit.  Tough call.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Limited Time Offer is really all about trying to force you to make a rushed decision without spending time to think it over.

These tricks are legitimate but immoral and dishonest.

Here are a few more:

1. We ran out -- buy something similar.

They try to get you buy to a product they&#039;d rather you buy by regularly running out of the product/brand that you went there looking for.

2. Wah! I gotta have it!

They offer you something then take it away. (Web sites do this all the time.) Most people would rather not get something in the first place than have it taken away.

3. Don&#039;t list the price. (Sears does this on Land&#039;s End clothes.)

It forces you think about how much you want it, before you know what it costs. Once you&#039;ve decided, you&#039;re usually willing to pay more than you otherwise would. BTW, this trick is illegal.

4. Discount only with a store credit card.

This is just a way to get your SSN, which is 100 times worse than a normal loyalty cards. They can gather information about customers across multiple businesses and use it to figure out how to raise prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Limited Time Offer is really all about trying to force you to make a rushed decision without spending time to think it over.</p>
<p>These tricks are legitimate but immoral and dishonest.</p>
<p>Here are a few more:</p>
<p>1. We ran out &#8212; buy something similar.</p>
<p>They try to get you buy to a product they&#8217;d rather you buy by regularly running out of the product/brand that you went there looking for.</p>
<p>2. Wah! I gotta have it!</p>
<p>They offer you something then take it away. (Web sites do this all the time.) Most people would rather not get something in the first place than have it taken away.</p>
<p>3. Don&#8217;t list the price. (Sears does this on Land&#8217;s End clothes.)</p>
<p>It forces you think about how much you want it, before you know what it costs. Once you&#8217;ve decided, you&#8217;re usually willing to pay more than you otherwise would. BTW, this trick is illegal.</p>
<p>4. Discount only with a store credit card.</p>
<p>This is just a way to get your SSN, which is 100 times worse than a normal loyalty cards. They can gather information about customers across multiple businesses and use it to figure out how to raise prices.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 00:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but being an attorney hasn&#039;t become nearly synonymous with being in an illegal pyramid scheme like an MLM is.  Also, a successful attorney adds value to the world - a successful person in MLM essentially performs the duty of an inanimate store shelf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but being an attorney hasn&#8217;t become nearly synonymous with being in an illegal pyramid scheme like an MLM is.  Also, a successful attorney adds value to the world &#8211; a successful person in MLM essentially performs the duty of an inanimate store shelf.</p>
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		<title>By: Me, Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Me, Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 21:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding MLM, I work with attorneys who dedicated 6 or more years to higher education, worked 14-16 hours for the first few years to build a client base, and still work 10-12 hours a day to make about $200K. If one spends an equal amount of time on MLM they can make the same money. Everyone I have met who is making a living in MLM has dedicated every waking moment to MLM. Making big money is possible, but at a huge cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding MLM, I work with attorneys who dedicated 6 or more years to higher education, worked 14-16 hours for the first few years to build a client base, and still work 10-12 hours a day to make about $200K. If one spends an equal amount of time on MLM they can make the same money. Everyone I have met who is making a living in MLM has dedicated every waking moment to MLM. Making big money is possible, but at a huge cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Funny about Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funny about Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 13:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm. Come to think of it, I haven&#039;t seen that rebate from Apple that was supposed to come for the &quot;free&quot; printer you have to pay upfront for. 

In the &quot;sneaky and borderline sketchy&quot; department, rebates are right up there with MLM. I just hate rebates...they&#039;re a nuisance and half the time you never get the money back after you&#039;ve jumped through their hoops, anyway. It&#039;s just another way to take your money.

I often tell sales reps who trot out a rebate as a sales gimmick that if their company could afford to give me a rebate, they can afford to sell me the product at a lower price in the store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm. Come to think of it, I haven&#8217;t seen that rebate from Apple that was supposed to come for the &#8220;free&#8221; printer you have to pay upfront for. </p>
<p>In the &#8220;sneaky and borderline sketchy&#8221; department, rebates are right up there with MLM. I just hate rebates&#8230;they&#8217;re a nuisance and half the time you never get the money back after you&#8217;ve jumped through their hoops, anyway. It&#8217;s just another way to take your money.</p>
<p>I often tell sales reps who trot out a rebate as a sales gimmick that if their company could afford to give me a rebate, they can afford to sell me the product at a lower price in the store.</p>
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		<title>By: Len Penzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len Penzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you Lazy Man, on companies that employ multi-level marketing.  

A big discriminator I always use to evaluate the &quot;goodness&quot; of a product being pushed via MLM is to ask if said product is selling outside the network? If not (i.e., the product/service(s) are really only being sold among folks within the network) then stay far far away!

Best,

Len
Len Penzo dot Com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you Lazy Man, on companies that employ multi-level marketing.  </p>
<p>A big discriminator I always use to evaluate the &#8220;goodness&#8221; of a product being pushed via MLM is to ask if said product is selling outside the network? If not (i.e., the product/service(s) are really only being sold among folks within the network) then stay far far away!</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Len<br />
Len Penzo dot Com</p>
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		<title>By: Dollar Dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dollar Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The contest tip is a perfect one. I like this idea and also going to implement in my blog. Thanks for sharing!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The contest tip is a perfect one. I like this idea and also going to implement in my blog. Thanks for sharing!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, let me just say that mystery beer sounds like one of the best things ever.  I&#039;m not much of a drinker, but a quality microbrew served in a interesting manner sounds great.  Plus, how can you resist something called &#039;Mystery Beer&#039;.

These are pretty sneaky methods, that&#039;s for sure.  The charity one in particular always gets me; unless you are planning to buy that product anyway, it&#039;s much more efficient and helpful to the charity to give directly and cut out the middle man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, let me just say that mystery beer sounds like one of the best things ever.  I&#8217;m not much of a drinker, but a quality microbrew served in a interesting manner sounds great.  Plus, how can you resist something called &#8216;Mystery Beer&#8217;.</p>
<p>These are pretty sneaky methods, that&#8217;s for sure.  The charity one in particular always gets me; unless you are planning to buy that product anyway, it&#8217;s much more efficient and helpful to the charity to give directly and cut out the middle man.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MLM is definitely sneaky and boreder line sketchy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MLM is definitely sneaky and boreder line sketchy.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t say they weren&#039;t legitimate, I just said they were sneaky.  It&#039;s legitimate to change the size of your ice cream container from a half gallon to 1.75 quarts to 1.5 quarts and charge the same price (possibly due to rising costs of ingredients).  However, it&#039;s also very sneaky (as the &lt;a href=&quot;http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/business/consuminginterests/blog/2008/05/the_incredible_shrinking_ice_c.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Baltimore Sun says here&lt;/a&gt;.

So don&#039;t take my use of sneaky as illegitimate.  I specifically mentioned in the first paragraph that businesses can learn from these tricks... and that I even used one for my Valentine&#039;s Day post.

I wish I had remembered to add this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say they weren&#8217;t legitimate, I just said they were sneaky.  It&#8217;s legitimate to change the size of your ice cream container from a half gallon to 1.75 quarts to 1.5 quarts and charge the same price (possibly due to rising costs of ingredients).  However, it&#8217;s also very sneaky (as the <a href="http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/business/consuminginterests/blog/2008/05/the_incredible_shrinking_ice_c.html" rel="nofollow">Baltimore Sun says here</a>.</p>
<p>So don&#8217;t take my use of sneaky as illegitimate.  I specifically mentioned in the first paragraph that businesses can learn from these tricks&#8230; and that I even used one for my Valentine&#8217;s Day post.</p>
<p>I wish I had remembered to add this one.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but I totally disagree. Most of the things you list are not sneaky business tricks at all. They are legitimate ways of building businesses, if there is proper disclosure and they operate with integrity. Yes, it is true that is a big if.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I totally disagree. Most of the things you list are not sneaky business tricks at all. They are legitimate ways of building businesses, if there is proper disclosure and they operate with integrity. Yes, it is true that is a big if.</p>
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		<title>By: Writers Coin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Writers Coin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same boat here with Kiyosaki: he sucks but his book got me started with thinking about money responsibly and eventually starting a PF Blog.

Agree on that 401k article. I critiqued his article here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thewriterscoin.com/2009/12/10/robert-kiyosaki-is-the-ann-coulter-of-personal-finance/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kiyosaki is the Ann Coulter of Personal Finance&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same boat here with Kiyosaki: he sucks but his book got me started with thinking about money responsibly and eventually starting a PF Blog.</p>
<p>Agree on that 401k article. I critiqued his article here: <a href="http://www.thewriterscoin.com/2009/12/10/robert-kiyosaki-is-the-ann-coulter-of-personal-finance/" rel="nofollow">Kiyosaki is the Ann Coulter of Personal Finance</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By network marketing are you talking about the affiliate marketing that I mentioned at the top (which I mentioned was not really sneaky) or the multi-level marketing at the bottom of the list (which again, I&#039;m not a fan of).

I give Robert Kiyosaki credit for helping me think of my finances in a different way (assets vs. liabilities), but it pretty much ends there.  In fact, it can often be a good idea to just do the opposite of what he says... for instance with 401k plans (http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/richricher/205569).  

I don&#039;t think Donald Trump has ever built a successful multi-level marketing business without using the Trump brand... (and I&#039;m not sure he&#039;s built one with the Trump brand).

I&#039;d like to see more details as to what is being taught at Harvard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By network marketing are you talking about the affiliate marketing that I mentioned at the top (which I mentioned was not really sneaky) or the multi-level marketing at the bottom of the list (which again, I&#8217;m not a fan of).</p>
<p>I give Robert Kiyosaki credit for helping me think of my finances in a different way (assets vs. liabilities), but it pretty much ends there.  In fact, it can often be a good idea to just do the opposite of what he says&#8230; for instance with 401k plans (<a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/richricher/205569" rel="nofollow">http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/richricher/205569</a>).  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Donald Trump has ever built a successful multi-level marketing business without using the Trump brand&#8230; (and I&#8217;m not sure he&#8217;s built one with the Trump brand).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see more details as to what is being taught at Harvard.</p>
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		<title>By: carol saha</title>
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		<dc:creator>carol saha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you think about the fact that network marketing is endorsed by people like Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trump? Also, that it is now taught at Harvard?
You&#039;re right that most people won&#039;t get rich in network marketing. But then most people won&#039;t get rich, period. Most businesses don&#039;t succeed whether they are network marketing or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you think about the fact that network marketing is endorsed by people like Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trump? Also, that it is now taught at Harvard?<br />
You&#8217;re right that most people won&#8217;t get rich in network marketing. But then most people won&#8217;t get rich, period. Most businesses don&#8217;t succeed whether they are network marketing or not.</p>
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		<title>By: kosmo @ The Casual Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>kosmo @ The Casual Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The McDonalds Monopoly game is pure genius.  Kudos to whomever came up with the idea. 

As for the Taco Bell thing - I just throw these away.  A pizza place where I used to live would randomly spit out requests to participate in their surveys.  It must have been something in the neighborhood of 1:25 or 1:50 receipts.  Participate in the survey, and you got a free small pizza, salad (topped with lots of french dressing), and a drink.  That was awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The McDonalds Monopoly game is pure genius.  Kudos to whomever came up with the idea. </p>
<p>As for the Taco Bell thing &#8211; I just throw these away.  A pizza place where I used to live would randomly spit out requests to participate in their surveys.  It must have been something in the neighborhood of 1:25 or 1:50 receipts.  Participate in the survey, and you got a free small pizza, salad (topped with lots of french dressing), and a drink.  That was awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Soo-Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soo-Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not at all Trader Joe&#039;s?  Well, I&#039;m sure we&#039;ll check it out anyway.  The fridge is currently beer free which is a horrible thing (especially when the whole family is in town).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not at all Trader Joe&#8217;s?  Well, I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll check it out anyway.  The fridge is currently beer free which is a horrible thing (especially when the whole family is in town).</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/top-10-sneakiest-business-tricks/comment-page-1/#comment-160617</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sadly not available at all Trader Joe&#039;s.  The one I saw it at was the Millbrae, CA one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sadly not available at all Trader Joe&#8217;s.  The one I saw it at was the Millbrae, CA one.</p>
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