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		<title>By: Gregory Despain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory Despain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 10:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is obviously a lot to know about this.  I think you made some good points in Features also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is obviously a lot to know about this.  I think you made some good points in Features also.</p>
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		<title>By: Moneyedup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moneyedup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent $1000 five years ago on an Acer laptop for school and it did the job. Unless you are in computer science, 2k on a MacBook Pro doesn&#039;t seem to be justified to me. I agree that the regular MacBook would be just fine, and that the other $1000 could be better spent elsewhere. Laptops go through a lot of wear and tear in school...you need to safeguard them from coffee spills in lecture halls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent $1000 five years ago on an Acer laptop for school and it did the job. Unless you are in computer science, 2k on a MacBook Pro doesn&#8217;t seem to be justified to me. I agree that the regular MacBook would be just fine, and that the other $1000 could be better spent elsewhere. Laptops go through a lot of wear and tear in school&#8230;you need to safeguard them from coffee spills in lecture halls.</p>
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		<title>By: kosmo @ The Casual Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>kosmo @ The Casual Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 15:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Mac guy, and even I would frown at the idea of a college student spending 2K for a MacBook Pro.  Odds are that a regular MacBook will do the job for less money and you can put the saved money toward tuition.  Or beer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Mac guy, and even I would frown at the idea of a college student spending 2K for a MacBook Pro.  Odds are that a regular MacBook will do the job for less money and you can put the saved money toward tuition.  Or beer.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 15:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m ordering a laptop from HP.com today
I&#039;m on the fence between a 6 and 9 cell battery. The laptop&#039;s battery life would go from an impressive 6 hours on a charge to nearly 10, but it is 30 bucks more and would make the laptop heavier and less comfortable to put in my lap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m ordering a laptop from HP.com today<br />
I&#8217;m on the fence between a 6 and 9 cell battery. The laptop&#8217;s battery life would go from an impressive 6 hours on a charge to nearly 10, but it is 30 bucks more and would make the laptop heavier and less comfortable to put in my lap.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan@TheFinancialStudent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan@TheFinancialStudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 22:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at this point it&#039;s still a maybe. But I really do want a Macbook Pro. 

Might move down to the regular Macbook though, which is a bit cheaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at this point it&#8217;s still a maybe. But I really do want a Macbook Pro. </p>
<p>Might move down to the regular Macbook though, which is a bit cheaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 22:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Raises hand*</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan@TheFinancialStudent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan@TheFinancialStudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 22:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m leaning towards buying a Macbook Pro for school in the fall.

Think anybody will freak out at me for spending almost 2K on a computer? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m leaning towards buying a Macbook Pro for school in the fall.</p>
<p>Think anybody will freak out at me for spending almost 2K on a computer? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Financial bondage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial bondage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may buy used or refurb next time around to save. good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may buy used or refurb next time around to save. good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well to save nearly $2100 to avoid downgrading to MacOS sounds like a win-win to me.

I am planning to dual-boot it with Ubuntuu... that&#039;s a smart (even if in jest) suggestion on your part :-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well to save nearly $2100 to avoid downgrading to MacOS sounds like a win-win to me.</p>
<p>I am planning to dual-boot it with Ubuntuu&#8230; that&#8217;s a smart (even if in jest) suggestion on your part :-).</p>
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		<title>By: Kosmo @ The Casual Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kosmo @ The Casual Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 16:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and you don&#039;t have to run Windows :)

Although, to be fair, you could slap Linux on your laptop and have a workable solution.

I kid, I kid.  To each their own.

I have an HP EliteBook for work, and that thing can take a solid lick and keep on ticking.  A few weeks ago, I was feeling under the weather at home and was trying to get some work done.  I stumbled while holding the laptop and it smacked into the wall pretty hard.  The extent of the damage was minor and cosmetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and you don&#8217;t have to run Windows :)</p>
<p>Although, to be fair, you could slap Linux on your laptop and have a workable solution.</p>
<p>I kid, I kid.  To each their own.</p>
<p>I have an HP EliteBook for work, and that thing can take a solid lick and keep on ticking.  A few weeks ago, I was feeling under the weather at home and was trying to get some work done.  I stumbled while holding the laptop and it smacked into the wall pretty hard.  The extent of the damage was minor and cosmetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kosmo does seem to be right here.  However, I watched them open them up new just a couple of months ago.  Perhaps my company, in it&#039;s ultimate wisdom, bought 100 of them back in 2007 and only used half and let the rest sit.

I guess I will just stick the fact that the computer that I got for $900 before tax is similar to a $2200 (before tax) MacBook... if you could buy a similar thing.

I don&#039;t see a 15 or 16&quot; laptop with a 1920x1080 (Full HD) display.  Seems like you have to jump to 17&quot;, which for an i7 would run you $2500 (and you&#039;d be stuck with either 4GB of memory or paying another $400 for 8GBs... no 6GB option).  You&#039;d have to add another $50 for a 7200 RPM hard drive.

It seems like I undercut the price of a comparable MacBook... it seems to be around $2950 (but you get a little more screen, a little more memory, and a little more hard drive space).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kosmo does seem to be right here.  However, I watched them open them up new just a couple of months ago.  Perhaps my company, in it&#8217;s ultimate wisdom, bought 100 of them back in 2007 and only used half and let the rest sit.</p>
<p>I guess I will just stick the fact that the computer that I got for $900 before tax is similar to a $2200 (before tax) MacBook&#8230; if you could buy a similar thing.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see a 15 or 16&#8243; laptop with a 1920&#215;1080 (Full HD) display.  Seems like you have to jump to 17&#8243;, which for an i7 would run you $2500 (and you&#8217;d be stuck with either 4GB of memory or paying another $400 for 8GBs&#8230; no 6GB option).  You&#8217;d have to add another $50 for a 7200 RPM hard drive.</p>
<p>It seems like I undercut the price of a comparable MacBook&#8230; it seems to be around $2950 (but you get a little more screen, a little more memory, and a little more hard drive space).</p>
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		<title>By: Kosmo @ The Casual Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kosmo @ The Casual Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The previous computer that I mentioned above is about two years old. At the time it cost me around $600 from Dell&#039;s Outlet store. I remember being ecstatic about having a laptop with a computer with a mid-range processor (a Core 2 Duo T5750) and the boost from 1GB of memory to 4GBs. I was also excited to make the jump from Windows XP to Vista. (That was obviously before I heard about all the issues with Vista.) I think that my excitement about the new computer was justified as just about 6 weeks ago, my work was shelling out $1200 to outfit software engineers with Mac PowerBooks with slower processors&quot;

Eh?  I&#039;m not going to argue that the initial costs of Macs are lower than PCs, but your company is getting hosed if they&#039;re buying PowerBooks with a benchmark &lt; 1113 and the seller is advertising them as new.  No 2010 model fits that bill.

Apple was selling an $1100 MacBook in May 2007 that was faster than that - as you can see, this machine has a processor that has a passmark score of 1142 (T7200 processor)

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/stats/macbook-core-2-duo-2.0-white-13-mid-2007-specs.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The previous computer that I mentioned above is about two years old. At the time it cost me around $600 from Dell&#8217;s Outlet store. I remember being ecstatic about having a laptop with a computer with a mid-range processor (a Core 2 Duo T5750) and the boost from 1GB of memory to 4GBs. I was also excited to make the jump from Windows XP to Vista. (That was obviously before I heard about all the issues with Vista.) I think that my excitement about the new computer was justified as just about 6 weeks ago, my work was shelling out $1200 to outfit software engineers with Mac PowerBooks with slower processors&#8221;</p>
<p>Eh?  I&#8217;m not going to argue that the initial costs of Macs are lower than PCs, but your company is getting hosed if they&#8217;re buying PowerBooks with a benchmark &lt; 1113 and the seller is advertising them as new.  No 2010 model fits that bill.</p>
<p>Apple was selling an $1100 MacBook in May 2007 that was faster than that &#8211; as you can see, this machine has a processor that has a passmark score of 1142 (T7200 processor)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/stats/macbook-core-2-duo-2.0-white-13-mid-2007-specs.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/stats/macbook-core-2-duo-2.0-white-13-mid-2007-specs.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 04:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there was a 1920x1080 screen in the 15&quot; format for $450.  Even if you go for a 17&quot; (where the screens get cheaper due to the dot-pinch), things don&#039;t get much cheaper and you lose a lot of portability.

The bump from 4GB to 6GB was $50.  For the amount of Firefox tabs that I keep open (literally 40-50 at a time).

I have an external HD where I can offload pictures and videos.  I rarely need to bring them all with me.

CPU - That&#039;s a good point.  I had some issues earlier this year where Microsoft&#039;s Search Indexer would pin it at 100%.  Some of the software engineering tasks that I run can take up half of the CPU.

I didn&#039;t mention it, but my laptop did come with a good graphics card.  As you point out, when you go with a cheaper laptop, you get the cheap graphics card.  You usually don&#039;t get the option to get a cheap laptop and customize a good graphics card.

I didn&#039;t get bluetooth - again these laptops are pre-built and you have to take from existing stock.  One with bluetooth would have cost me $150 more and forced me into taking options that I didn&#039;t necessary want or need.  I can add USB bluetooth cheaply -- I saw options for under $20 on Amazon (and at the size of a quarter, it barely sticks out).

In two years, I&#039;m not sure your whole computer will be better.  You might be able to get a similar i7 QM-720 processor that I have and you might have more memory, but those were the two things that you weren&#039;t concerned about.  I don&#039;t believe that screen technology will get above 1920x1080 in two years... at least not at a $450 price point.  However, at that point, if you have to pay $450 today and $450 in two years... you will have paid $900 vs. my $998.  I&#039;ll have had the advantage of two years with what is close to the best of the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there was a 1920&#215;1080 screen in the 15&#8243; format for $450.  Even if you go for a 17&#8243; (where the screens get cheaper due to the dot-pinch), things don&#8217;t get much cheaper and you lose a lot of portability.</p>
<p>The bump from 4GB to 6GB was $50.  For the amount of Firefox tabs that I keep open (literally 40-50 at a time).</p>
<p>I have an external HD where I can offload pictures and videos.  I rarely need to bring them all with me.</p>
<p>CPU &#8211; That&#8217;s a good point.  I had some issues earlier this year where Microsoft&#8217;s Search Indexer would pin it at 100%.  Some of the software engineering tasks that I run can take up half of the CPU.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mention it, but my laptop did come with a good graphics card.  As you point out, when you go with a cheaper laptop, you get the cheap graphics card.  You usually don&#8217;t get the option to get a cheap laptop and customize a good graphics card.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t get bluetooth &#8211; again these laptops are pre-built and you have to take from existing stock.  One with bluetooth would have cost me $150 more and forced me into taking options that I didn&#8217;t necessary want or need.  I can add USB bluetooth cheaply &#8212; I saw options for under $20 on Amazon (and at the size of a quarter, it barely sticks out).</p>
<p>In two years, I&#8217;m not sure your whole computer will be better.  You might be able to get a similar i7 QM-720 processor that I have and you might have more memory, but those were the two things that you weren&#8217;t concerned about.  I don&#8217;t believe that screen technology will get above 1920&#215;1080 in two years&#8230; at least not at a $450 price point.  However, at that point, if you have to pay $450 today and $450 in two years&#8230; you will have paid $900 vs. my $998.  I&#8217;ll have had the advantage of two years with what is close to the best of the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Customers Revenge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Customers Revenge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 03:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d recommend you buy almost the absolute cheapest computer you can.  $1000 is way too much, I would not buy a laptop for more than about $450.  It will obviously not be as good as yours, but when I buy another in a year or two, again at $450, it will probably be better by then.

Screen and battery:  I agree with you, get a good screen and big battery.

6 GB RAM -- absolutely huge, not sure what you will be doing to fill that up unless you are doing video editing, databases, or hardcore gaming.

HD -- I need a large HD because I take tons of pictures and videos.  I would trade the RAM for more HD.  500G minimum.  Faster is better, but used up battery faster.

Processor -- doesn&#039;t much matter.  They don&#039;t sell slow processors anymore.  99% of the processor&#039;s power will be idle.  Usually cheap laptops have bad graphics cards and you&#039;ll get a lot more speed increase from a better graphics card than a better processor or more RAM.

Other main things I consider:

Networking -- need gigabit LAN and wireless N to transfer data between my other computers.

Bluetooth -- because I have bluetooth devices.

Webcam in the screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d recommend you buy almost the absolute cheapest computer you can.  $1000 is way too much, I would not buy a laptop for more than about $450.  It will obviously not be as good as yours, but when I buy another in a year or two, again at $450, it will probably be better by then.</p>
<p>Screen and battery:  I agree with you, get a good screen and big battery.</p>
<p>6 GB RAM &#8212; absolutely huge, not sure what you will be doing to fill that up unless you are doing video editing, databases, or hardcore gaming.</p>
<p>HD &#8212; I need a large HD because I take tons of pictures and videos.  I would trade the RAM for more HD.  500G minimum.  Faster is better, but used up battery faster.</p>
<p>Processor &#8212; doesn&#8217;t much matter.  They don&#8217;t sell slow processors anymore.  99% of the processor&#8217;s power will be idle.  Usually cheap laptops have bad graphics cards and you&#8217;ll get a lot more speed increase from a better graphics card than a better processor or more RAM.</p>
<p>Other main things I consider:</p>
<p>Networking &#8212; need gigabit LAN and wireless N to transfer data between my other computers.</p>
<p>Bluetooth &#8212; because I have bluetooth devices.</p>
<p>Webcam in the screen.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 20:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello!

The last 3 computers (2 laptops and 1 desktop) I&#039;ve purchased have been Dell refurbished.  While I have no idea what the experience may be for HP, Asus, etc refurbs, my experience with the Dells have been outstanding.  Your review is spot on - simply keep an eye on the refurb site and look for coupons.  You&#039;ll definitely be able to get the machine you want at a great price simply by holding off on the &quot;impulse&quot; buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello!</p>
<p>The last 3 computers (2 laptops and 1 desktop) I&#8217;ve purchased have been Dell refurbished.  While I have no idea what the experience may be for HP, Asus, etc refurbs, my experience with the Dells have been outstanding.  Your review is spot on &#8211; simply keep an eye on the refurb site and look for coupons.  You&#8217;ll definitely be able to get the machine you want at a great price simply by holding off on the &#8220;impulse&#8221; buy.</p>
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