Comments on: The Worst Gifts We Have Ever Gotten http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/ Saving, Earning, and Investing Money Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:22:17 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Fed UP http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-147390 Fed UP Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:52:20 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-147390 A crappy set of mugs with a card to the previous recipient left inside the box. A half melted cande and a bunch of cheap crap, like nail polish and junky doodads from the dollar store. From the husband, a leftover ice cream cake from Baskin Robbins. (while I was dieting no less) Hell will freeze over before that clueles, selfish mofo ever gets another [specific adult activity] from me! A crappy set of mugs with a card to the previous recipient left inside the box. A half melted cande and a bunch of cheap crap, like nail polish and junky doodads from the dollar store. From the husband, a leftover ice cream cake from Baskin Robbins. (while I was dieting no less) Hell will freeze over before that clueles, selfish mofo ever gets another [specific adult activity] from me!

]]> By: another annonymous soul http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-121054 another annonymous soul Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:46:03 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-121054 I read through the entire article and all of the responses and I feel a lot better. I'm not the only one! Christmas this year was, as usual, a day of unwrapping junk we can't really use. My mother is the bad-gift-giving-culprit. The worst part is, I give her lists of things I would like and they are affordable and specific and she completely ignores the list and gets what she wants for herself (for us). She even tries on the clothes herself and then wraps them up and gives them to us. This year I got a too large old lady dress (I'm 24) and a way too small pair of pajama pants, along with countless other knick-knacks from the Christmas Bazaar. I'm just about ready to do something drastic like the ideas mentioned above (ask for no gifts, ask for donations to a cause, start some kind of scholarship, etc)... but something must change. I read through the entire article and all of the responses and I feel a lot better. I’m not the only one! Christmas this year was, as usual, a day of unwrapping junk we can’t really use. My mother is the bad-gift-giving-culprit. The worst part is, I give her lists of things I would like and they are affordable and specific and she completely ignores the list and gets what she wants for herself (for us). She even tries on the clothes herself and then wraps them up and gives them to us. This year I got a too large old lady dress (I’m 24) and a way too small pair of pajama pants, along with countless other knick-knacks from the Christmas Bazaar. I’m just about ready to do something drastic like the ideas mentioned above (ask for no gifts, ask for donations to a cause, start some kind of scholarship, etc)… but something must change.

]]> By: Danielle http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-109632 Danielle Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:40:53 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-109632 I started up a collection among my friends for all their unwanted gifts. I split them up into a section that can be given to our local womens shelter (lotions, body washes) and those that just need to get donated (candles) or can be wrapped up as appreciation gifts for volunteers (like the ones that work at the womens shelter)! The commenter who said they intentionally break the knick knacks makes me sad. Either fess up and say you don't like gifts like that or at least donate them somewhere before they get broken! Our family does the email everyone a huge list of what you think you want for christmas. It is an onerous process to come up with a list of stuff you want that you don't want to buy for yourself that is reasonably priced for all abilities to pay and specific enough that they don't get you a bottom of the barrel cheap version (I have a totally useless shower radio that just goes to prove that point). Plus I never get lists from my family members in enough time to really shop around, it is like pulling teeth to get my parents to admit to a specific thing they want for Christmas! As hard as it is, it is much better than getting generic candles, blankets, bath soaps etc. P.S. I got a fun game called banagrams for Christmas last year from a friend and it was purchased at Hallmark. I agree with the general principle of useless gifts there, but know there are exceptions. I started up a collection among my friends for all their unwanted gifts. I split them up into a section that can be given to our local womens shelter (lotions, body washes) and those that just need to get donated (candles) or can be wrapped up as appreciation gifts for volunteers (like the ones that work at the womens shelter)!

The commenter who said they intentionally break the knick knacks makes me sad. Either fess up and say you don’t like gifts like that or at least donate them somewhere before they get broken!

Our family does the email everyone a huge list of what you think you want for christmas. It is an onerous process to come up with a list of stuff you want that you don’t want to buy for yourself that is reasonably priced for all abilities to pay and specific enough that they don’t get you a bottom of the barrel cheap version (I have a totally useless shower radio that just goes to prove that point). Plus I never get lists from my family members in enough time to really shop around, it is like pulling teeth to get my parents to admit to a specific thing they want for Christmas!

As hard as it is, it is much better than getting generic candles, blankets, bath soaps etc.

P.S. I got a fun game called banagrams for Christmas last year from a friend and it was purchased at Hallmark. I agree with the general principle of useless gifts there, but know there are exceptions.

]]> By: don't tell my mother-in-law http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-108893 don't tell my mother-in-law Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:31:01 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-108893 My mother-in-law gives the worst gifts, every year. She enjoys going to the dollar store and Wal-Mart, which would be perfectly fine if the gifts she got were useful. And through sheer odds, some of the gifts I have gotten have been nice. But I have gotten so many weird frames, magnets, stuffed animals, silly string, cat toys, etc. that it would be probably better if she would stop. She even gives us Easter baskets, which makes me feel like I'm 7 again (I'm almost 27). My mother-in-law gives the worst gifts, every year. She enjoys going to the dollar store and Wal-Mart, which would be perfectly fine if the gifts she got were useful. And through sheer odds, some of the gifts I have gotten have been nice. But I have gotten so many weird frames, magnets, stuffed animals, silly string, cat toys, etc. that it would be probably better if she would stop. She even gives us Easter baskets, which makes me feel like I’m 7 again (I’m almost 27).

]]> By: CJ http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-108874 CJ Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:40:24 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-108874 Dude I think your mother-in-law knows my aunt. My brother and I have spent many a Christmas growing up in tears from frustration at having to spend hours trying on clothes we didn't like while being poked and prodded and fussed at for gaining too much weight. While the gifts that we worked hard to find for her got a glance and were quickly tossed aside. (There's actually one gift she got from us, that she asked for, still sitting in our dining room from at least 4 Christmases ago. Heaven forbid we should do the same with a gift from her.) Because of that experience I'm a big believer in inexpensive, flexible gifts that express a certain degree of effort in understanding the person you're giving to. Dude I think your mother-in-law knows my aunt. My brother and I have spent many a Christmas growing up in tears from frustration at having to spend hours trying on clothes we didn’t like while being poked and prodded and fussed at for gaining too much weight. While the gifts that we worked hard to find for her got a glance and were quickly tossed aside. (There’s actually one gift she got from us, that she asked for, still sitting in our dining room from at least 4 Christmases ago. Heaven forbid we should do the same with a gift from her.)

Because of that experience I’m a big believer in inexpensive, flexible gifts that express a certain degree of effort in understanding the person you’re giving to.

]]> By: Mrs. Micah http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-108800 Mrs. Micah Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:00:24 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-108800 For a long time, my grandmother had the habit of picking up our gifts at yard sales and such. You can find awesome things at yard sales and the like, but these were mostly bought because she thought they would look cool--figurines, other random stuff. She does that less now, which is nice. The problem for me was figuring out how soon I could get rid of something. For a long time, my grandmother had the habit of picking up our gifts at yard sales and such. You can find awesome things at yard sales and the like, but these were mostly bought because she thought they would look cool–figurines, other random stuff. She does that less now, which is nice. The problem for me was figuring out how soon I could get rid of something.

]]> By: mysticgraystar http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-108793 mysticgraystar Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:10:23 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-108793 My husband and I live with our 3 children in a 600sf loft apartment (inside our barn . . . have not gotten around to building our house, yet), so, needless to say I don't have room for any presents! But, does that keep grandma from giving the kids too many toys??? NO. Grandma gives and I have to store the damn things in the back of my van for months! Until, I decide it's time to 'give' the toys to Goodwill. Come on, Mom. I'm dying here. STOP with the gifts, already!!! My husband and I live with our 3 children in a 600sf loft apartment (inside our barn . . . have not gotten around to building our house, yet), so, needless to say I don’t have room for any presents!

But, does that keep grandma from giving the kids too many toys??? NO. Grandma gives and I have to store the damn things in the back of my van for months! Until, I decide it’s time to ‘give’ the toys to Goodwill.

Come on, Mom. I’m dying here. STOP with the gifts, already!!!

]]> By: summer http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-108791 summer Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:53:27 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-108791 I LOVE giving gifts, although, I try to keep focused on my very close loved ones whom I know well enough to get them something they will truely appreciate. I LOVE giving gifts, although, I try to keep focused on my very close loved ones whom I know well enough to get them something they will truely appreciate.

]]> By: Purple Moon http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-108788 Purple Moon Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:28:18 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-108788 Our large family of 8 married children iwth 20 grandchildren decided that only the grandkids get gifts this year. Rather than exchanging gift cards among the rest of us, we are putting all the money in an account and offering 2 scholarships to the local high school seniors in May. All 8 and 2 in-laws graduated and the second generation is starting their walk through the line. We couldn't think of a better way to use our money than to help someone else, rather than think of something within the designated price range that we didn't need anyway. Our large family of 8 married children iwth 20 grandchildren decided that only the grandkids get gifts this year. Rather than exchanging gift cards among the rest of us, we are putting all the money in an account and offering 2 scholarships to the local high school seniors in May. All 8 and 2 in-laws graduated and the second generation is starting their walk through the line. We couldn’t think of a better way to use our money than to help someone else, rather than think of something within the designated price range that we didn’t need anyway.

]]> By: Amanda http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-108785 Amanda Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:21:07 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-108785 Personally, I love getting gifts. Who doesn't? But I don't count things given to me because that person thinks I should have it--a gift. It's not a gift if you force it upon me. "Oh! You don't have a (insert old fashioned or otherwise useless trivial object here)? I'll get you one for Christmas!" Or: "Well, I noticed you didn't have (kitchen appliance that requires enough electricity to run an entire household) and I really find it very handy so I got you one too." These things are not gifts--they're intrusions. Personally, I love getting gifts. Who doesn’t? But I don’t count things given to me because that person thinks I should have it–a gift. It’s not a gift if you force it upon me. “Oh! You don’t have a (insert old fashioned or otherwise useless trivial object here)? I’ll get you one for Christmas!” Or: “Well, I noticed you didn’t have (kitchen appliance that requires enough electricity to run an entire household) and I really find it very handy so I got you one too.” These things are not gifts–they’re intrusions.

]]> By: Vonnie http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-108784 Vonnie Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:19:19 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-108784 So, like, I've never been into corpse art, right? One year, dear old Dad, who got his first pheasant at the young age of 64, asked me if I wanted a mount out of it. I flipped him off (yes, I know it was disrespectful, but alcohol was involved). I received for Christmas the FOOT of the thing, mounted on a hand made Red Elm base, upside down. This means the pheasant (tasty as he was) flips me off from my fireplace mantle ever day. Now, one would think I could simply choose not to display it. But if you've ever been subject to a parent's silent treatment, that obvious disquiet when he's looking on the mantle for that one memento of his first kill, or the ostentatious absence from your doorstep when you failed to honor their ambitions, you'd know why that dusty little claw will ever adorn my fireplace. So, like, I’ve never been into corpse art, right? One year, dear old Dad, who got his first pheasant at the young age of 64, asked me if I wanted a mount out of it. I flipped him off (yes, I know it was disrespectful, but alcohol was involved). I received for Christmas the FOOT of the thing, mounted on a hand made Red Elm base, upside down. This means the pheasant (tasty as he was) flips me off from my fireplace mantle ever day. Now, one would think I could simply choose not to display it. But if you’ve ever been subject to a parent’s silent treatment, that obvious disquiet when he’s looking on the mantle for that one memento of his first kill, or the ostentatious absence from your doorstep when you failed to honor their ambitions, you’d know why that dusty little claw will ever adorn my fireplace.

]]> By: CREATIVE GIVER http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-108782 CREATIVE GIVER Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:16:49 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-108782 My husband is a terrible gift buyer, he likes to think he's being thoughtful because he's buying a gift, but buys weird things for the sake of "giving a gift". i.e. His sister sells Arbonne - natural make up lotions and such, he comes home with cheap dollar store lotions. When I say you can't give her that she sells Arbonne, he doesn't understand. Or he'll buy me music or DVD's of movies he would like, but not necessarily my taste. Or will simply buy something because it's cheap. I have standards, I try to be thoughtful and creative - give gifts that I know people want or would use. Something that supports a hobbie or a favorite color or even a gift card to a favorite store. Hubby thinks gift cards are impersonal - I say what's more impersonal than a cheap, thoughtless gift from the dollar store! My husband is a terrible gift buyer, he likes to think he’s being thoughtful because he’s buying a gift, but buys weird things for the sake of “giving a gift”. i.e. His sister sells Arbonne – natural make up lotions and such, he comes home with cheap dollar store lotions. When I say you can’t give her that she sells Arbonne, he doesn’t understand.
Or he’ll buy me music or DVD’s of movies he would like, but not necessarily my taste. Or will simply buy something because it’s cheap. I have standards, I try to be thoughtful and creative – give gifts that I know people want or would use. Something that supports a hobbie or a favorite color or even a gift card to a favorite store. Hubby thinks gift cards are impersonal – I say what’s more impersonal than a cheap, thoughtless gift from the dollar store!

]]> By: taniad http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-108777 taniad Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:53:58 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-108777 My best friend and I agreed that we didn't need anymore birthday gifts and decided that spending time with each other was more important so now every year on our birthdays we get together and go to lunch and maybe a movie or something. Time with someone is so much more precious than something that's going to sit around and collect dust. My best friend and I agreed that we didn’t need anymore birthday gifts and decided that spending time with each other was more important so now every year on our birthdays we get together and go to lunch and maybe a movie or something. Time with someone is so much more precious than something that’s going to sit around and collect dust.

]]> By: Lazy Man http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-108774 Lazy Man Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:44:55 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-108774 Miss Grinch, I'm not sure giving up all Christmas gifts makes sense. I wonder what that would do to the economy. On one hand it would save a lot of people money, but on the other hand, a lot of stores depending on the Christmas rush would face hard times and have to lay off employees. Miss Grinch, I’m not sure giving up all Christmas gifts makes sense. I wonder what that would do to the economy. On one hand it would save a lot of people money, but on the other hand, a lot of stores depending on the Christmas rush would face hard times and have to lay off employees.

]]> By: Miss Grinch http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-108768 Miss Grinch Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:56:04 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-108768 In addition to my other post, I'd like to offer some suggestions on how to get your family to stop giving Xmas gifts. 1. Explain that Christmas is supposed to be the celebration of the birth of a savior. The savior was presented with gifts on the day of his birth, but why does that mean that everyone else should too? 2. The money spent on random items could be given to charities or spent on gifts for needy children who probably have very little to begin with. 3. The entire holiday creates an INSANE amount of waste, both in terms of wrapping and packaging, but also wasted electricity, fuel, and other resources. 4. As a last resort tell them that you will not be giving any gifts this year and that you would appreciate if they do not give you any as well. Stick to your guns and if you are true to your word this year, they will likely go along with it next year. In summary, WWJD? Would he be proud of the way we celebrate his birthday or would he be pushing for reform? In addition to my other post, I’d like to offer some suggestions on how to get your family to stop giving Xmas gifts.
1. Explain that Christmas is supposed to be the celebration of the birth of a savior. The savior was presented with gifts on the day of his birth, but why does that mean that everyone else should too?
2. The money spent on random items could be given to charities or spent on gifts for needy children who probably have very little to begin with.
3. The entire holiday creates an INSANE amount of waste, both in terms of wrapping and packaging, but also wasted electricity, fuel, and other resources.
4. As a last resort tell them that you will not be giving any gifts this year and that you would appreciate if they do not give you any as well. Stick to your guns and if you are true to your word this year, they will likely go along with it next year.

In summary, WWJD? Would he be proud of the way we celebrate his birthday or would he be pushing for reform?

]]> By: Jess http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-108767 Jess Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:48:22 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-108767 How about when people give you a framed picture of themselves? My stepmother loves doing that. Like I want to look at her evil face on a daily basis. Also, religious gifts are equally annoying. Just because I was brought up Catholic (I don't even go to church now), does not mean that I want a virgin mary statue, Crucifix, Bible, etc... Then what the writer said about the Catholic family..."where's that crucifix we gave you?" Um, considering I don't go to church, I'm probably not going to hang Jesus and Pals on my walls. I also agree with the clothing for women....never buy a woman clothing! Either the size is wrong...and if it's big they will take it as an insult, or it's ugly as hell. It never fails. How about when people give you a framed picture of themselves? My stepmother loves doing that. Like I want to look at her evil face on a daily basis. Also, religious gifts are equally annoying. Just because I was brought up Catholic (I don’t even go to church now), does not mean that I want a virgin mary statue, Crucifix, Bible, etc… Then what the writer said about the Catholic family…”where’s that crucifix we gave you?” Um, considering I don’t go to church, I’m probably not going to hang Jesus and Pals on my walls. I also agree with the clothing for women….never buy a woman clothing! Either the size is wrong…and if it’s big they will take it as an insult, or it’s ugly as hell. It never fails.

]]> By: KBAM http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-108766 KBAM Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:40:57 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-108766 I agree wholeheartedly. I have faked enthusiasm for far too many ugly, ill-fitting sweaters and dust-collecting knick-knacks. I just Goodwill-ed three picture frames and am trying to burn my way through 2 billion candles that I've gotten from people who don't know what to get me. Stop! I'd rather you didn't buy me anything!! I wish I could convince my in-laws to give up buying Christmas gifts (no kids in our family, just adults) but they are obsessed. I agree wholeheartedly. I have faked enthusiasm for far too many ugly, ill-fitting sweaters and dust-collecting knick-knacks. I just Goodwill-ed three picture frames and am trying to burn my way through 2 billion candles that I’ve gotten from people who don’t know what to get me. Stop! I’d rather you didn’t buy me anything!! I wish I could convince my in-laws to give up buying Christmas gifts (no kids in our family, just adults) but they are obsessed.

]]> By: Miss Grinch http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-108765 Miss Grinch Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:31:23 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-108765 For my thirteenth birthday I received a bag of Snausages and a book on dog training. My mom had gotten a puppy six months earlier and apparently I was being gifted with the opportunity to train her dog. So the moral of this story is NEVER give someone a gift that is intended to help you! As I grew up, every year I was increasingly disappointed with the gifts that my family would give on the holidays. I understand its the thought that counts, but if the thought is, "This thing is on clearance, so I should buy it and just decide who to give it to later," then the thought sucks! So after 28 years of being the good Xmas consumer I declared that I would no longer observe the holiday with gift-giving for ANYONE, family, friends, whoever. And if someone has a problem with that, then they can just not give me a gift! Ha! I have to say that the last several years have been some of the best holiday seasons I have experienced since I learned the truth about Santa. :) For my thirteenth birthday I received a bag of Snausages and a book on dog training. My mom had gotten a puppy six months earlier and apparently I was being gifted with the opportunity to train her dog. So the moral of this story is NEVER give someone a gift that is intended to help you!

As I grew up, every year I was increasingly disappointed with the gifts that my family would give on the holidays. I understand its the thought that counts, but if the thought is, “This thing is on clearance, so I should buy it and just decide who to give it to later,” then the thought sucks!

So after 28 years of being the good Xmas consumer I declared that I would no longer observe the holiday with gift-giving for ANYONE, family, friends, whoever. And if someone has a problem with that, then they can just not give me a gift! Ha!

I have to say that the last several years have been some of the best holiday seasons I have experienced since I learned the truth about Santa. :)

]]> By: GaGirl http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-108755 GaGirl Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:22:54 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-108755 When I was about 13 years old, I purchased a couple of vintage coca-cola trays to display in my room. I am 27 now, and my grandmother constantly tries to buy coca-cola themed things for me. I think I have finally convinced her that although I appreciate her generosity, my decorating taste has changed in the past 14 years. And don't get me started on the useless wedding gifts we recieved that were not on our registry. While they were all lovely thoughts, we simply didn't have space for them in our small home, and I ended up donating hundreds of dollars worth of unsolicited serveware, tacky crystal and wedding-themed trinkets to our local charity. I felt bad about giving away gifts, but I didn't like them, they didn't fit our lifestyle and they were taking up too much room. I would rather the people have made a direct contribution to that charity. We didn't need all of that stuff, which is why we didn't register for it! When I was about 13 years old, I purchased a couple of vintage coca-cola trays to display in my room. I am 27 now, and my grandmother constantly tries to buy coca-cola themed things for me. I think I have finally convinced her that although I appreciate her generosity, my decorating taste has changed in the past 14 years. And don’t get me started on the useless wedding gifts we recieved that were not on our registry. While they were all lovely thoughts, we simply didn’t have space for them in our small home, and I ended up donating hundreds of dollars worth of unsolicited serveware, tacky crystal and wedding-themed trinkets to our local charity. I felt bad about giving away gifts, but I didn’t like them, they didn’t fit our lifestyle and they were taking up too much room. I would rather the people have made a direct contribution to that charity. We didn’t need all of that stuff, which is why we didn’t register for it!

]]> By: FruGal http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/the-worst-gifts-we-have-ever-gotten/comment-page-1/#comment-108640 FruGal Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:24:59 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=1111#comment-108640 I always try to give gifts of food or wine, they are always appreciated (I think!) I always try to give gifts of food or wine, they are always appreciated (I think!)

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