Comments on: State of the Economy http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/state-of-the-economy/ Saving, Earning, and Investing Money Sat, 11 Feb 2012 01:33:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Early Retirement Extreme http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/state-of-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-90614 Early Retirement Extreme Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:35:19 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/state-of-the-economy/#comment-90614 The GM low IS adjusted for splits (I thought it was only the lowest in 30 years, but I might have missed a new low). It's not adjusted for dividends though. Historically dividends have been 3-4% (e.g. much higher than they were last year), and GM's seem quite high, comparably speaking. Thus dividends would have adjusted for inflation. Yes, in my opinion, the oil run up looks eerily like the NASDAQ run up. Complete with new era speak, and the making fun of those who say it's not a new era. What is happening is that peak oil is getting popular whereas it used to be a fringe group. Disclaimer: I have very little in oil anymore. I'm buying banks (only certain ones) which with reference to the indeces are down a lot more. The energy source may change, but banking is forever. If it isn't (hyperinflation, complete monetary crash), all paper assets will die, so ... The GM low IS adjusted for splits (I thought it was only the lowest in 30 years, but I might have missed a new low). It’s not adjusted for dividends though. Historically dividends have been 3-4% (e.g. much higher than they were last year), and GM’s seem quite high, comparably speaking. Thus dividends would have adjusted for inflation.

Yes, in my opinion, the oil run up looks eerily like the NASDAQ run up. Complete with new era speak, and the making fun of those who say it’s not a new era. What is happening is that peak oil is getting popular whereas it used to be a fringe group.

Disclaimer: I have very little in oil anymore. I’m buying banks (only certain ones) which with reference to the indeces are down a lot more. The energy source may change, but banking is forever. If it isn’t (hyperinflation, complete monetary crash), all paper assets will die, so …

]]> By: Lazy Man http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/state-of-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-90429 Lazy Man Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:46:04 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/state-of-the-economy/#comment-90429 I will give you there are likely dividends and carve outs (Dish Network comes to mind, I think), but the price takes splits into account. It's the total market capital of the company then vs. the total market capital now. If a company splits it's shares, you don't just say, they reached a new 52-week low. You adjust that 52-week low price to coincide with the split. I will give you there are likely dividends and carve outs (Dish Network comes to mind, I think), but the price takes splits into account. It’s the total market capital of the company then vs. the total market capital now. If a company splits it’s shares, you don’t just say, they reached a new 52-week low. You adjust that 52-week low price to coincide with the split.

]]> By: Online Dividends http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/state-of-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-90428 Online Dividends Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:35:34 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/state-of-the-economy/#comment-90428 The statement is that the "price" of GM is at the same level as in 1955. However, adjusted for dividends, split, and carve outs ( companies that GM spun off and thus investors received stock in other companies) GM investors should have achieved some return. Yahoo finance only goes as far back as 1962. Adjusted for everything I mentioned above, $1000 invested in GM on 1/1/1962 would be worth about $5650 as of yesterdays close. The statement is that the “price” of GM is at the same level as in 1955. However, adjusted for dividends, split, and carve outs ( companies that GM spun off and thus investors received stock in other companies) GM investors should have achieved some return. Yahoo finance only goes as far back as 1962. Adjusted for everything I mentioned above, $1000 invested in GM on 1/1/1962 would be worth about $5650 as of yesterdays close.

]]> By: David Wynn http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/state-of-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-90427 David Wynn Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:26:57 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/state-of-the-economy/#comment-90427 Wait, hasn't GM stock split at some point during that time? If so, saying you've lost money on a simple share to share price comparison is inaccurate, due to the fact that you'd be holding more shares today than in 1955. Wait, hasn’t GM stock split at some point during that time?

If so, saying you’ve lost money on a simple share to share price comparison is inaccurate, due to the fact that you’d be holding more shares today than in 1955.

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