Comments on: MonaVie and FTC Guidelines http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/monavie-and-ftc-guidelines/ Saving, Earning, and Investing Money Sat, 11 Feb 2012 03:58:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Lazy Man http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/monavie-and-ftc-guidelines/comment-page-1/#comment-353615 Lazy Man Sun, 06 Mar 2011 19:09:44 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=2550#comment-353615 By relational marketing companies, you mean Multi-Level Marketing (MLM), right? Just making sure because I know that MLMs got a bad name since the <a href="http://business.ftc.gov/documents/inv08-bottom-line-about-multi-level-marketing-plans" rel="nofollow">FTC claims they can be illegal pyramid schemes</a>. Then people started calling them network marketing, because networking isn't viewed as illegal scheme. I've then heard them called, direct selling, which is another misnomer because there's often very little selling vs. the recruiting. Oddly companies like MonaVie pull people's distributors license if they "directly sell" on Ebay or Craigslist. Thanks for adding "relational marketing" to the mix. Let's just go back to MLM, because the other terms could apply to standard companies paying a standard commission sales and paying nothing to recursive levels. We are talking about MLMs, not network marketing, direct selling, or relational selling. I don't why you think that all MLMs are a scam. <a href="http://business.ftc.gov/documents/inv08-bottom-line-about-multi-level-marketing-plans" rel="nofollow">The FTC is very clear on this topic</a>: <blockquote>"Not all multilevel marketing plans are legitimate. Some are pyramid schemes. It's best not to get involved in plans where the money you make is based primarily on the number of distributors you recruit and your sales to them, rather than on your sales to people outside the plan who intend to use the products."</blockquote> Note that this doesn't say that all MLM companies are a scam. It says that some of them are. You can't say that because Warren Buffett owns a MLM that makes them all legit. Greg, interesting that you didn't give us your own name either. Hmmm. I'm just trying to educate people, I'm not asking them for their money. You are the one making strawman arguments so that you can seem intelligent. You are the one who is likely a MonaVie distributor who wants to bring people into the scam to fatten your wallet. Yes, people, make up your minds. (If you are wondering why I don't tell you my name, it's because I post financial information about myself on this website. It's a common thing for personal finance bloggers to be anonymous so that they can be truthful about their finances.) By relational marketing companies, you mean Multi-Level Marketing (MLM), right? Just making sure because I know that MLMs got a bad name since the FTC claims they can be illegal pyramid schemes. Then people started calling them network marketing, because networking isn’t viewed as illegal scheme. I’ve then heard them called, direct selling, which is another misnomer because there’s often very little selling vs. the recruiting. Oddly companies like MonaVie pull people’s distributors license if they “directly sell” on Ebay or Craigslist. Thanks for adding “relational marketing” to the mix. Let’s just go back to MLM, because the other terms could apply to standard companies paying a standard commission sales and paying nothing to recursive levels. We are talking about MLMs, not network marketing, direct selling, or relational selling.

I don’t why you think that all MLMs are a scam. The FTC is very clear on this topic:

“Not all multilevel marketing plans are legitimate. Some are pyramid schemes. It’s best not to get involved in plans where the money you make is based primarily on the number of distributors you recruit and your sales to them, rather than on your sales to people outside the plan who intend to use the products.”

Note that this doesn’t say that all MLM companies are a scam. It says that some of them are. You can’t say that because Warren Buffett owns a MLM that makes them all legit.

Greg, interesting that you didn’t give us your own name either. Hmmm. I’m just trying to educate people, I’m not asking them for their money. You are the one making strawman arguments so that you can seem intelligent. You are the one who is likely a MonaVie distributor who wants to bring people into the scam to fatten your wallet. Yes, people, make up your minds.

(If you are wondering why I don’t tell you my name, it’s because I post financial information about myself on this website. It’s a common thing for personal finance bloggers to be anonymous so that they can be truthful about their finances.)

]]> By: Greg http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/monavie-and-ftc-guidelines/comment-page-1/#comment-353603 Greg Sun, 06 Mar 2011 02:08:12 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=2550#comment-353603 Hmmm....funny that all relational marketing companies are a scam. I suppose that's why Warren Buffet owns multiple, and The Donald got in on the business model as well. Oh, and then there's Richard Branson. He too is in on he scam. Luckily we have you - the savior of the world! I wish I could believe your BS, but alas, I have a brain of my own. And somehow, I'm mysteriously capable of making my decisions. I wouldn't listen to your worthless advice if it came in the form of a Charlie Sheen hooker. I'm guessing you won't post this, but a little advice for those who have a hard time running their own life and rely on LazyAss to do it for them. Don't let other people's emotions and negativity make your decisions for you. Get a f'in backbone and make up your own mind. You're really going to let someone who won't give out their name tell you what's right and wrong in this world? Really? Very unfortunate indeed... Hmmm….funny that all relational marketing companies are a scam. I suppose that’s why Warren Buffet owns multiple, and The Donald got in on the business model as well. Oh, and then there’s Richard Branson. He too is in on he scam. Luckily we have you – the savior of the world! I wish I could believe your BS, but alas, I have a brain of my own. And somehow, I’m mysteriously capable of making my decisions. I wouldn’t listen to your worthless advice if it came in the form of a Charlie Sheen hooker. I’m guessing you won’t post this, but a little advice for those who have a hard time running their own life and rely on LazyAss to do it for them. Don’t let other people’s emotions and negativity make your decisions for you. Get a f’in backbone and make up your own mind. You’re really going to let someone who won’t give out their name tell you what’s right and wrong in this world? Really? Very unfortunate indeed…

]]> By: Karen http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/monavie-and-ftc-guidelines/comment-page-1/#comment-229858 Karen Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:16:55 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=2550#comment-229858 A couple of friends from my church are using and selling MonaVie. They both insist the juice has really helped them. One of my friends talked me into coming to his house for a presentation and tasting. I'll admit that I like the taste but when I heard how much each bottle cost, I was shocked. He wanted to sign me up right then but I was broke and had to wait until I got paid. After reading your articles, I am more convinced then ever that this isn't right for me. Thank you so much for your articles on MonaVie. A couple of friends from my church are using and selling MonaVie. They both insist the juice has really helped them. One of my friends talked me into coming to his house for a presentation and tasting. I’ll admit that I like the taste but when I heard how much each bottle cost, I was shocked. He wanted to sign me up right then but I was broke and had to wait until I got paid. After reading your articles, I am more convinced then ever that this isn’t right for me. Thank you so much for your articles on MonaVie.

]]> By: Candace http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/monavie-and-ftc-guidelines/comment-page-1/#comment-161182 Candace Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:50:39 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=2550#comment-161182 Very good, LM, was wondering how things were progressing in regards to the "legal" bullying. And http://www.juicescam.com/ is looking very nice. Very good, LM, was wondering how things were progressing in regards to the “legal” bullying.
And http://www.juicescam.com/ is looking very nice.

]]> By: Minority Fortune http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/monavie-and-ftc-guidelines/comment-page-1/#comment-159560 Minority Fortune Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:18:51 +0000 http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/?p=2550#comment-159560 Bravo on the update! Glad to hear that you've stuck to your guns. Never had any Monavie juice and don't plan to. Monavie totally made itself look piss poor with the drones coming to your site in truck loads making false health claims and name calling. It's scary to know that companies with a cloak over their operations can gross mega millions with questionable policies to say the least. However, your standing ground gives me hope that corporations don't have all of the law in their hands. Congrats! Bravo on the update! Glad to hear that you’ve stuck to your guns. Never had any Monavie juice and don’t plan to. Monavie totally made itself look piss poor with the drones coming to your site in truck loads making false health claims and name calling.

It’s scary to know that companies with a cloak over their operations can gross mega millions with questionable policies to say the least. However, your standing ground gives me hope that corporations don’t have all of the law in their hands. Congrats!

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