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		<title>By: FlyFishingAce</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/introducing-lending-club/comment-page-1/#comment-23795</link>
		<dc:creator>FlyFishingAce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 08:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No return on idle cash, Cheapster Bob.  Any cash in a member&#039;s account is not earning a return.  I believe that is a big weakness of these programs.  While one&#039;s money is being placed in a loan portfolio, which may take a week or more, the money is not earning a return.  And of course, when monthly loan payments are received, they go into the same non-earning cash account.  In addition, it takes two to four days to withdraw funds, more interest lost on the funds.

Ironically, Lending Club promotes the desirability of automatically re-investing investment earnings.  Here is a quote from their 12/21/07 blog:  &quot;Automatically reinvest – Set up your accounts so that any interest or income you receive from investments and savings are automatically reinvested for you. This way you will start compounding your investments and they will grow at a faster rate.&quot;  But surprisingly they fail to provide this valuable investment strategy for their members.  Prosper doesn&#039;t pay interest on idle cash either, siting regulatory prohibitions.  Yet PayPal seems to be able to place their members&#039; cash into a MMF and pay a very competitive rate to boot.

The bottom line is that the quoted loan portfolio returns must be netted against the lost earnings on any idle cash   Maximizing ones returns would take lots of time and effort withdrawing funds or promptly re-loaning funds over $25.  It would be labor intensive at best and still would fall short of an effective re-investment strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No return on idle cash, Cheapster Bob.  Any cash in a member&#8217;s account is not earning a return.  I believe that is a big weakness of these programs.  While one&#8217;s money is being placed in a loan portfolio, which may take a week or more, the money is not earning a return.  And of course, when monthly loan payments are received, they go into the same non-earning cash account.  In addition, it takes two to four days to withdraw funds, more interest lost on the funds.</p>
<p>Ironically, Lending Club promotes the desirability of automatically re-investing investment earnings.  Here is a quote from their 12/21/07 blog:  &#8220;Automatically reinvest – Set up your accounts so that any interest or income you receive from investments and savings are automatically reinvested for you. This way you will start compounding your investments and they will grow at a faster rate.&#8221;  But surprisingly they fail to provide this valuable investment strategy for their members.  Prosper doesn&#8217;t pay interest on idle cash either, siting regulatory prohibitions.  Yet PayPal seems to be able to place their members&#8217; cash into a MMF and pay a very competitive rate to boot.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that the quoted loan portfolio returns must be netted against the lost earnings on any idle cash   Maximizing ones returns would take lots of time and effort withdrawing funds or promptly re-loaning funds over $25.  It would be labor intensive at best and still would fall short of an effective re-investment strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheapster Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/introducing-lending-club/comment-page-1/#comment-22546</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheapster Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the additional information PLP. That is a better scenario then I had previously thought as I like the idea of shared risk via diversification.

If these sites start using an interest bearing savings account/MMA for money sitting around this could be a good deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the additional information PLP. That is a better scenario then I had previously thought as I like the idea of shared risk via diversification.</p>
<p>If these sites start using an interest bearing savings account/MMA for money sitting around this could be a good deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Personal Loan Portfolio</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/introducing-lending-club/comment-page-1/#comment-22530</link>
		<dc:creator>Personal Loan Portfolio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the earlier double comment...  Cheapster, you are lending a $25 piece of a larger loan. Loans are several thousand dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the earlier double comment&#8230;  Cheapster, you are lending a $25 piece of a larger loan. Loans are several thousand dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheapster Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/introducing-lending-club/comment-page-1/#comment-22480</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheapster Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you buying a piece of a loan for 25 dollars or is it a straight out 25 dollar loan? To me you have a huge chance of someone paying back the loan early nearly every time. In other words they would just be using your money for a cheaper pay day loan.

I&#039;m not sold on these but will keep an eye out for more Lazy Man articles in the future as new investment models are always interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you buying a piece of a loan for 25 dollars or is it a straight out 25 dollar loan? To me you have a huge chance of someone paying back the loan early nearly every time. In other words they would just be using your money for a cheaper pay day loan.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sold on these but will keep an eye out for more Lazy Man articles in the future as new investment models are always interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Personal Loan Portfolio</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/introducing-lending-club/comment-page-1/#comment-22460</link>
		<dc:creator>Personal Loan Portfolio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lending Club is quite interesting from a lender&#039;s point of view. I certainly like the ability to spread my risk across $25 loans. This can cut risk credit risk nearly in half on the same total investment versus Prosper which requires $50 investments on each loan.  

I completely &lt;a href=&quot;http://personalfinancetrainer.com/5/five-investment-prerequisites-to-p2p-lending/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;agree with Cheapster&lt;/a&gt; that there are many investments that should be considered before P2P lending. If you are completely unfamiliar with Lending Club&#039;s investment procedures, I recommend &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.personalloanportfolio.com/35/video-of-creating-a-loan-portfolio-at-lending-club/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the video I made&lt;/a&gt; while selecting my first loans. Also, the potential &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.personalloanportfolio.com/37/lending-club-roi-bonus-5-extra-return-as-a-thank-you/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bonus for a new lender&lt;/a&gt; is much higher than mentioned which could increase any lender&#039;s return.

&lt;a href=&quot;https://secure.lendingclub.com/refer.action?referrer=TechnologyGuy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lazy Man&#039;s affiliate link to Lending Club&lt;/a&gt; can also bring you that thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lending Club is quite interesting from a lender&#8217;s point of view. I certainly like the ability to spread my risk across $25 loans. This can cut risk credit risk nearly in half on the same total investment versus Prosper which requires $50 investments on each loan.  </p>
<p>I completely <a href="http://personalfinancetrainer.com/5/five-investment-prerequisites-to-p2p-lending/" rel="nofollow">agree with Cheapster</a> that there are many investments that should be considered before P2P lending. If you are completely unfamiliar with Lending Club&#8217;s investment procedures, I recommend <a href="http://www.personalloanportfolio.com/35/video-of-creating-a-loan-portfolio-at-lending-club/" rel="nofollow">the video I made</a> while selecting my first loans. Also, the potential <a href="http://www.personalloanportfolio.com/37/lending-club-roi-bonus-5-extra-return-as-a-thank-you/" rel="nofollow">bonus for a new lender</a> is much higher than mentioned which could increase any lender&#8217;s return.</p>
<p><a href="https://secure.lendingclub.com/refer.action?referrer=TechnologyGuy" rel="nofollow">Lazy Man&#8217;s affiliate link to Lending Club</a> can also bring you that thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Personal Loan Portfolio</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/introducing-lending-club/comment-page-1/#comment-22458</link>
		<dc:creator>Personal Loan Portfolio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lending Club is quite interesting from a lender&#039;s point of view. I certainly like the ability to spread my risk across $25 loans. This can cut risk credit risk nearly in half on the same total investment versus Prosper which requires $50 investments on each loan.  

I completely &lt;a href=&quot;http://personalfinancetrainer.com/5/five-investment-prerequisites-to-p2p-lending/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;agree with Cheapster&lt;/a&gt; that there are many investments that should be considered before P2P lending. If you are completely unfamiliar with Lending Club&#039;s investment procedure, I recommend &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.personalloanportfolio.com/35/video-of-creating-a-loan-portfolio-at-lending-club/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the video I made&lt;/a&gt; while selecting my first loans. Also, the potential &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.personalloanportfolio.com/37/lending-club-roi-bonus-5-extra-return-as-a-thank-you/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bonus for a new lender&lt;/a&gt; is much higher than you mentioned.

&lt;a href=&quot;https://secure.lendingclub.com/refer.action?referrer=TechnologyGuy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lazy Man&#039;s affiliate link to Lending Club&lt;/a&gt; can also bring you that thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lending Club is quite interesting from a lender&#8217;s point of view. I certainly like the ability to spread my risk across $25 loans. This can cut risk credit risk nearly in half on the same total investment versus Prosper which requires $50 investments on each loan.  </p>
<p>I completely <a href="http://personalfinancetrainer.com/5/five-investment-prerequisites-to-p2p-lending/" rel="nofollow">agree with Cheapster</a> that there are many investments that should be considered before P2P lending. If you are completely unfamiliar with Lending Club&#8217;s investment procedure, I recommend <a href="http://www.personalloanportfolio.com/35/video-of-creating-a-loan-portfolio-at-lending-club/" rel="nofollow">the video I made</a> while selecting my first loans. Also, the potential <a href="http://www.personalloanportfolio.com/37/lending-club-roi-bonus-5-extra-return-as-a-thank-you/" rel="nofollow">bonus for a new lender</a> is much higher than you mentioned.</p>
<p><a href="https://secure.lendingclub.com/refer.action?referrer=TechnologyGuy" rel="nofollow">Lazy Man&#8217;s affiliate link to Lending Club</a> can also bring you that thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheapster Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/introducing-lending-club/comment-page-1/#comment-22402</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheapster Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the stats a little queer to say the least. My credit rating is in the high six hundreds and the last loan I got from my Credit Union was for 5 percent interest. Even with the credit crunch I can&#039;t see my next one being over 8 percent.

Why would someone with impeccable credit want to pay over 12 percent interest on a loan when they can get a better rate?

This is the mystery of the lending sites and their extravagant statistics. Is the draw of these sites the fact that you do not have to supply any collateral??

As always, I remind the readers that only extra money you have to play with should be going into these types of investments. First money always goes into 401 or Roth, second into emergency savings account, third goes into your companies stock purchase plan for 15 percent minimum return and THEN anything left over goes into places like Prosper and Lending Club.

Also be sure to contact the websites directly and demand current default rates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the stats a little queer to say the least. My credit rating is in the high six hundreds and the last loan I got from my Credit Union was for 5 percent interest. Even with the credit crunch I can&#8217;t see my next one being over 8 percent.</p>
<p>Why would someone with impeccable credit want to pay over 12 percent interest on a loan when they can get a better rate?</p>
<p>This is the mystery of the lending sites and their extravagant statistics. Is the draw of these sites the fact that you do not have to supply any collateral??</p>
<p>As always, I remind the readers that only extra money you have to play with should be going into these types of investments. First money always goes into 401 or Roth, second into emergency savings account, third goes into your companies stock purchase plan for 15 percent minimum return and THEN anything left over goes into places like Prosper and Lending Club.</p>
<p>Also be sure to contact the websites directly and demand current default rates.</p>
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		<title>By: RateLadder</title>
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		<dc:creator>RateLadder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree competition is a good thing...  I am also trying lending club.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree competition is a good thing&#8230;  I am also trying lending club.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also recently joined Lending Club.  I think a bunch of former Prosper lenders are also lending on Lending Club.  Curiosity drives some of it and, of course, it&#039;s also nice to get the free sign-up bonus.

Competition is good for the P2P lending market.  It will force all the players to improve their offerings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also recently joined Lending Club.  I think a bunch of former Prosper lenders are also lending on Lending Club.  Curiosity drives some of it and, of course, it&#8217;s also nice to get the free sign-up bonus.</p>
<p>Competition is good for the P2P lending market.  It will force all the players to improve their offerings.</p>
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		<title>By: The Saving Freak</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Saving Freak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks promising.  Someone to compete with prosper could keep the marketplace of lending clean and even.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks promising.  Someone to compete with prosper could keep the marketplace of lending clean and even.</p>
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