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	<title>Comments on: Giving a Lasting Gift to a Baby (But Not the Parents)?</title>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/giving-a-lasting-gift-to-a-baby-but-not-the-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-131278</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 02:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Bill McCollam; it&#039;s awfully hard to give money to a child without allowing the parents to have access.  Doubly so if you don&#039;t have a connection to the child that would endure for years; if you aren&#039;t related, many of the good ideas (529 plans) tend to fail.

I do like the personal finance book idea.  My only worry would be that, if the parents consider themselves trustworthy, responsible people, such a gift might come across as an insult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Bill McCollam; it&#8217;s awfully hard to give money to a child without allowing the parents to have access.  Doubly so if you don&#8217;t have a connection to the child that would endure for years; if you aren&#8217;t related, many of the good ideas (529 plans) tend to fail.</p>
<p>I do like the personal finance book idea.  My only worry would be that, if the parents consider themselves trustworthy, responsible people, such a gift might come across as an insult.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I have friends that have a baby turning 1 year old and I want to get the baby a financial gift.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have friends that have a baby turning 1 year old and I want to get the baby a financial gift.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: geny150</title>
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		<dc:creator>geny150</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, I reread the question several times, and didn&#039;t see the one-year birthday part.

Don&#039;t worry, it won&#039;t happen again; I&#039;ve removed your blog from my feed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I reread the question several times, and didn&#8217;t see the one-year birthday part.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, it won&#8217;t happen again; I&#8217;ve removed your blog from my feed.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/giving-a-lasting-gift-to-a-baby-but-not-the-parents/comment-page-1/#comment-129441</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I would agree with you if it was newborn - I always buy off a registry.  However, I&#039;ve never heard of someone having a registry for a birthday though.  Yes, I made the assumption that by one-year old the baby has the necessities like a car seat... I think I&#039;m pretty safe with that one.  Then again I&#039;ve never raised a baby so I don&#039;t know if anything pops up at 1-year old.

The premise to this whole thing is that the giver is looking to give something to help secure the financial future of the baby.  

I told the person offline, but didn&#039;t put it in this post, that it would be uncomfortable gift to give publicly as it can be viewed as criticism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I would agree with you if it was newborn &#8211; I always buy off a registry.  However, I&#8217;ve never heard of someone having a registry for a birthday though.  Yes, I made the assumption that by one-year old the baby has the necessities like a car seat&#8230; I think I&#8217;m pretty safe with that one.  Then again I&#8217;ve never raised a baby so I don&#8217;t know if anything pops up at 1-year old.</p>
<p>The premise to this whole thing is that the giver is looking to give something to help secure the financial future of the baby.  </p>
<p>I told the person offline, but didn&#8217;t put it in this post, that it would be uncomfortable gift to give publicly as it can be viewed as criticism.</p>
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		<title>By: geny150</title>
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		<dc:creator>geny150</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not check and see if they have a baby registry?  Although college savings are great, you&#039;re making a lot of assumptions (like, that the child will want to go to college, and that the parents couldn&#039;t use a thermometer / car seat / something-for-the-baby&#039;s-health-&amp;-safety now instead).  There are things new parents need for the child, not just toys.
And, frankly, as an expectant mother, I think the book idea&#039;s pretty crappy.  Again, you&#039;re making a _lot_ of assumptions here.  And parents-to-be are already a little stressed out... please don&#039;t add to it with criticism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not check and see if they have a baby registry?  Although college savings are great, you&#8217;re making a lot of assumptions (like, that the child will want to go to college, and that the parents couldn&#8217;t use a thermometer / car seat / something-for-the-baby&#8217;s-health-&amp;-safety now instead).  There are things new parents need for the child, not just toys.<br />
And, frankly, as an expectant mother, I think the book idea&#8217;s pretty crappy.  Again, you&#8217;re making a _lot_ of assumptions here.  And parents-to-be are already a little stressed out&#8230; please don&#8217;t add to it with criticism.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For cases where you don&#039;t want to worry about being custodian of an account for somebody else&#039;s child, I think the suggestion to give a book and offer to match the parents&#039; first contribution to a 529 plan is a great idea. 

Of course, they may never do anything about it. I offered something similar to an adult relative regarding investing in an mutual fund IRA. I even printed out the application, but he never did it. 

So maybe to be safe, you also bring over a bunch of boxes for the kid to play with. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For cases where you don&#8217;t want to worry about being custodian of an account for somebody else&#8217;s child, I think the suggestion to give a book and offer to match the parents&#8217; first contribution to a 529 plan is a great idea. </p>
<p>Of course, they may never do anything about it. I offered something similar to an adult relative regarding investing in an mutual fund IRA. I even printed out the application, but he never did it. </p>
<p>So maybe to be safe, you also bring over a bunch of boxes for the kid to play with. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 03:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting thought, Bill and thanks for the praise of the answer.

Still, this isn&#039;t exactly like training a dog.  The baby will be responsible for itself someday and will need to have some kind of finances at that point.  A dog (who has owners) will not be expected to provide for himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thought, Bill and thanks for the praise of the answer.</p>
<p>Still, this isn&#8217;t exactly like training a dog.  The baby will be responsible for itself someday and will need to have some kind of finances at that point.  A dog (who has owners) will not be expected to provide for himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill McCollam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill McCollam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 01:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was reading the post thinking that the question was all wrong-headed.  Basically you can&#039;t give the baby a present that the parents can&#039;t mess up. (If just by passing on wrong financial values).  You nailed the answer. It reminds me of people getting a new dog and deciding whether to pay for obedience school... dog obedience school has nothing to do with training the dog and everything to do with training the owner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading the post thinking that the question was all wrong-headed.  Basically you can&#8217;t give the baby a present that the parents can&#8217;t mess up. (If just by passing on wrong financial values).  You nailed the answer. It reminds me of people getting a new dog and deciding whether to pay for obedience school&#8230; dog obedience school has nothing to do with training the dog and everything to do with training the owner.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve @ brip blap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve @ brip blap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I set up custodial accounts at Sharebuilder for my nieces and nephews, and contribute to it for their birthdays and big holidays (Xmas, etc.).  Not big amounts, but enough that when they turn 18 hopefully they&#039;ll say &quot;whoa, thanks, uncle Steve&quot;.  

I still give toys and books and so on from time to time but I made it clear to the parents that we&#039;d give financial gifts, especially when we can&#039;t be there for the celebration.  If we are there in person, we bring a gift, but if not - financial gifts.

I wouldn&#039;t feel embarrassed, anyway.  It&#039;s the gift-givers&#039; money.  He/she can spend it as he/she sees fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I set up custodial accounts at Sharebuilder for my nieces and nephews, and contribute to it for their birthdays and big holidays (Xmas, etc.).  Not big amounts, but enough that when they turn 18 hopefully they&#8217;ll say &#8220;whoa, thanks, uncle Steve&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I still give toys and books and so on from time to time but I made it clear to the parents that we&#8217;d give financial gifts, especially when we can&#8217;t be there for the celebration.  If we are there in person, we bring a gift, but if not &#8211; financial gifts.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t feel embarrassed, anyway.  It&#8217;s the gift-givers&#8217; money.  He/she can spend it as he/she sees fit.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two years ago I setup a UTMA (uniform transfer to minors) account for my niece.  I have it buy McDonalds stock  through their DRIP plan every Christmas.  That way when she turns 18 she&#039;ll hopefully have a really cool gift from her boring uncle and maybe gain a little more knowledge on investing in general.  I go into more detail about it on my blog at http://incrediblylucky.com/content/what-i-got-my-niece-christmas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two years ago I setup a UTMA (uniform transfer to minors) account for my niece.  I have it buy McDonalds stock  through their DRIP plan every Christmas.  That way when she turns 18 she&#8217;ll hopefully have a really cool gift from her boring uncle and maybe gain a little more knowledge on investing in general.  I go into more detail about it on my blog at <a href="http://incrediblylucky.com/content/what-i-got-my-niece-christmas" rel="nofollow">http://incrediblylucky.com/content/what-i-got-my-niece-christmas</a></p>
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		<title>By: Abigail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abigail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the idea of giving a financial gift is fabulous, not tacky at all. 

My only caution on savings bonds... A few of my family members gave savings bonds off and on throughout my childhood. I always appreciated (no pun intended) them.

But about two years ago, I finally cashed them in and -- despite having all of them for at least 10 years -- several of them hadn&#039;t yet reached full value. They accrue VERY slowly. I tried to read up (at the time) about savings bonds and figure them out. I was lost, but the gist is: If you&#039;re giving the kid something at birth, chances are it&#039;ll be at full value when he/she is ready for college (or even done with college). But past age, say, 6 or 8, there&#039;s no guarantee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the idea of giving a financial gift is fabulous, not tacky at all. </p>
<p>My only caution on savings bonds&#8230; A few of my family members gave savings bonds off and on throughout my childhood. I always appreciated (no pun intended) them.</p>
<p>But about two years ago, I finally cashed them in and &#8212; despite having all of them for at least 10 years &#8212; several of them hadn&#8217;t yet reached full value. They accrue VERY slowly. I tried to read up (at the time) about savings bonds and figure them out. I was lost, but the gist is: If you&#8217;re giving the kid something at birth, chances are it&#8217;ll be at full value when he/she is ready for college (or even done with college). But past age, say, 6 or 8, there&#8217;s no guarantee.</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Wayne.  My inlaws asked us about this for our now 7 month old at Christmas and we were all for it.  They gave us money, instead of a gift, to put into his college fund.  Now, we are responsible, so we will save it for him (it&#039;s currently in a savings account until we open the 529 plans this year).  

Personally, I would think a financial gift would be a welcomed alternative to more &#039;stuff&#039;, especially if it&#039;s a second child, since most families already have a million toys.  I know it is for me.  Books are always nice too, if you still wanted to give something tangible, like Wayne suggested.  But, when they are really young, like one, they don&#039;t know any different anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Wayne.  My inlaws asked us about this for our now 7 month old at Christmas and we were all for it.  They gave us money, instead of a gift, to put into his college fund.  Now, we are responsible, so we will save it for him (it&#8217;s currently in a savings account until we open the 529 plans this year).  </p>
<p>Personally, I would think a financial gift would be a welcomed alternative to more &#8217;stuff&#8217;, especially if it&#8217;s a second child, since most families already have a million toys.  I know it is for me.  Books are always nice too, if you still wanted to give something tangible, like Wayne suggested.  But, when they are really young, like one, they don&#8217;t know any different anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would try to do both.  I would tell the parents my intention and ask if they have a 529, Education IRA to contribute to directly on behalf of the child or buy a Savings Bond for the child.  I would still get the child a small gift, something for them to open and to have.   If they have none of the above, then the gift can still be a financial gift, get them a gift of stock, see website, www.oneshare.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would try to do both.  I would tell the parents my intention and ask if they have a 529, Education IRA to contribute to directly on behalf of the child or buy a Savings Bond for the child.  I would still get the child a small gift, something for them to open and to have.   If they have none of the above, then the gift can still be a financial gift, get them a gift of stock, see website, <a href="http://www.oneshare.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.oneshare.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most importantly...&quot;another bundle of joy to be announced soon&quot;....Now you got me! I will be waiting to hear!

On to the article and the question at hand. Personally, I love your last and &quot;best&quot; suggestion. I think it&#039;s a superb idea and would have been thrilled if someone had done so for my kids. 

I don&#039;t have other suggestions, especially in this economy, and with the condition that the gift giver doesn&#039;t want a long term tie to the family. But I have seen many times people giving savings bonds as gifts. Yes, the parents or guardians can cash them in, but it behooves them not to...whether the parents/guardians understand that or not is another matter altogether.

Excellent article, I will be watching to see what others have to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most importantly&#8230;&#8221;another bundle of joy to be announced soon&#8221;&#8230;.Now you got me! I will be waiting to hear!</p>
<p>On to the article and the question at hand. Personally, I love your last and &#8220;best&#8221; suggestion. I think it&#8217;s a superb idea and would have been thrilled if someone had done so for my kids. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have other suggestions, especially in this economy, and with the condition that the gift giver doesn&#8217;t want a long term tie to the family. But I have seen many times people giving savings bonds as gifts. Yes, the parents or guardians can cash them in, but it behooves them not to&#8230;whether the parents/guardians understand that or not is another matter altogether.</p>
<p>Excellent article, I will be watching to see what others have to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Slinky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had this same thought for my nephew. He sure doesn&#039;t need more toys and I was not about to just hand over cash. I wanted the money to do him some real good. I ended up going the same route as you and opening a 529 plan for him. If he wants to go to school he&#039;ll have some money for books, and if not, I&#039;ll sign it over to him when he turns 25.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had this same thought for my nephew. He sure doesn&#8217;t need more toys and I was not about to just hand over cash. I wanted the money to do him some real good. I ended up going the same route as you and opening a 529 plan for him. If he wants to go to school he&#8217;ll have some money for books, and if not, I&#8217;ll sign it over to him when he turns 25.</p>
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