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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/credit-card-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-119849</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.billshrink.com/credit-cards/bill-of-rights/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this list&lt;/a&gt; of what credit card companies are complying with what parts.  If it is to be believed no one follows the interest rate without reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found <a href="http://www.billshrink.com/credit-cards/bill-of-rights/" rel="nofollow">this list</a> of what credit card companies are complying with what parts.  If it is to be believed no one follows the interest rate without reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/credit-card-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-119821</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kitty, I agree about this bill protecting the irresponsible.  we&#039;ve become a credit nation and we feel entitled to credit and we feel credit is a right.  unfortunately, people over react during times of crisis.  

many of these provisions don&#039;t change anything really, because the major credit card companies already adhere to the provisions--that is, universal default, double cycle billing, grace period, and interest rate without reason.  the only real change is the application of payments rather than to the lowest rate first.  Every card i have received, it is very clear that the cc company applies payment to the lowest rate.  i simply didn&#039;t see this as a problem.  what this is to me is that people who have probably benefited from a lower interest BT or promo rate are still charging on the same card.  personally, if they did a promo or bt rate, they shouldn&#039;t be continuing to charge on the card anyways.

fluffy words like &quot;reasonable and &quot;unfair&quot; are used towards fees, because the Supreme Court has already ruled that cc companies can charge fees and interest rate limits according to the State of the company&#039;s HQ.  This doesn&#039;t change how much the fee can be, presumably because of the supreme court ruling.  so, basically, it limits cc companies to whatever the state law is, which they already are abiding by.  those fees, therefore, will not change.

if people are angry at the credit card industry, they really need to look at themselves first.  you don&#039;t need a credit card.  if you think you need a credit card, you definitely don&#039;t need to carry a balance.  if you don&#039;t carry a balance, you have nothing to worry about.  people want all their free credit still.  Hello people, free and loose credit are the reasons why we are in the current economic situation.  Get your personal finances under control and stop worrying about your credit entitlement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kitty, I agree about this bill protecting the irresponsible.  we&#8217;ve become a credit nation and we feel entitled to credit and we feel credit is a right.  unfortunately, people over react during times of crisis.  </p>
<p>many of these provisions don&#8217;t change anything really, because the major credit card companies already adhere to the provisions&#8211;that is, universal default, double cycle billing, grace period, and interest rate without reason.  the only real change is the application of payments rather than to the lowest rate first.  Every card i have received, it is very clear that the cc company applies payment to the lowest rate.  i simply didn&#8217;t see this as a problem.  what this is to me is that people who have probably benefited from a lower interest BT or promo rate are still charging on the same card.  personally, if they did a promo or bt rate, they shouldn&#8217;t be continuing to charge on the card anyways.</p>
<p>fluffy words like &#8220;reasonable and &#8220;unfair&#8221; are used towards fees, because the Supreme Court has already ruled that cc companies can charge fees and interest rate limits according to the State of the company&#8217;s HQ.  This doesn&#8217;t change how much the fee can be, presumably because of the supreme court ruling.  so, basically, it limits cc companies to whatever the state law is, which they already are abiding by.  those fees, therefore, will not change.</p>
<p>if people are angry at the credit card industry, they really need to look at themselves first.  you don&#8217;t need a credit card.  if you think you need a credit card, you definitely don&#8217;t need to carry a balance.  if you don&#8217;t carry a balance, you have nothing to worry about.  people want all their free credit still.  Hello people, free and loose credit are the reasons why we are in the current economic situation.  Get your personal finances under control and stop worrying about your credit entitlement.</p>
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		<title>By: kitty</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/credit-card-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-119581</link>
		<dc:creator>kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;these don’t impact me too much&quot;
Actually I think it will impact you - in a negative way. I think there&#039;ll be fewer rewards, fewer cash backs, fewer 0% offers. It will also impact the value of your 401K at least if you have any of it in equity funds. Also negatively.

Personally, I don&#039;t like that this bill passed. It protects irresponsible math-challenged people who carry balances and it will hurt those of us who&#039;s always been responsible, who lived within our means, paid our balances in full every month, and saved money. Every index fund owns financial stocks. Lower profits for financial companies = lower stock value -- you are going to lose money because of this bill as will all of the &quot;savers&quot;.

Yes, some practices like double cycle billing were bad. So? Easy way around it - don&#039;t carry balances or don&#039;t have a card if you are unable to keep your card in your wallet. As to universal default, I think it made a lot of sense. Not paying any bill on time anywhere means one is a risky customer. Higher risk = higher reward. This happens all the time with corporate credit: when a corporation&#039;s financial situation gets worse, Finch reduces its credit rating. Then company&#039;s bonds value goes down and consequently bond yields go up. The company needs to pay higher interest on new bonds. Why should it be any difference with individuals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;these don’t impact me too much&#8221;<br />
Actually I think it will impact you &#8211; in a negative way. I think there&#8217;ll be fewer rewards, fewer cash backs, fewer 0% offers. It will also impact the value of your 401K at least if you have any of it in equity funds. Also negatively.</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t like that this bill passed. It protects irresponsible math-challenged people who carry balances and it will hurt those of us who&#8217;s always been responsible, who lived within our means, paid our balances in full every month, and saved money. Every index fund owns financial stocks. Lower profits for financial companies = lower stock value &#8212; you are going to lose money because of this bill as will all of the &#8220;savers&#8221;.</p>
<p>Yes, some practices like double cycle billing were bad. So? Easy way around it &#8211; don&#8217;t carry balances or don&#8217;t have a card if you are unable to keep your card in your wallet. As to universal default, I think it made a lot of sense. Not paying any bill on time anywhere means one is a risky customer. Higher risk = higher reward. This happens all the time with corporate credit: when a corporation&#8217;s financial situation gets worse, Finch reduces its credit rating. Then company&#8217;s bonds value goes down and consequently bond yields go up. The company needs to pay higher interest on new bonds. Why should it be any difference with individuals?</p>
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		<title>By: Brett @ Personal Loan Portfolio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett @ Personal Loan Portfolio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Penny, they always informed you if a policy changed. The problem was that it was buried in legal jargon.  Although, even worse many nefarious tactics to rake in more of your money were usually already covered by preexisting policies or could &quot;change without notice&quot; and this were already covered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penny, they always informed you if a policy changed. The problem was that it was buried in legal jargon.  Although, even worse many nefarious tactics to rake in more of your money were usually already covered by preexisting policies or could &#8220;change without notice&#8221; and this were already covered.</p>
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		<title>By: PennySeeds.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>PennySeeds.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have much sympathy for the poor rich credit card companies. They should&#039;ve treated their customers right from the start.

If my credit card company changed a policy, and did not bother to inform me I would probably never use their card again, and take my business elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have much sympathy for the poor rich credit card companies. They should&#8217;ve treated their customers right from the start.</p>
<p>If my credit card company changed a policy, and did not bother to inform me I would probably never use their card again, and take my business elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett @ Personal Loan Portfolio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett @ Personal Loan Portfolio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Overall this is fantastic news for most consumers. I have heard horror stories of interest rates being raised on past purchases because of people purchasing retread tires to try to save money. This should put an end to that.  I also have an acquaintance who fell into a vicious circle of CC companies raising rates that led to bankruptcy.  It might have been prevented through a law like this. 

This item sounds like a great idea: &quot;Credit card can’t choose to move your payment to the lower interest one letting the high interest accumulate.&quot;  However, that is what zero interest (or super low interest) balance transfers/checks were all about. I used these smartly -- to obtain free money.  If I used one of those offers to make a large purchase, that CC went into the safe until that balance was paid off.  However, this law may put an end to these offers because the ROI to the CC companies was based upon this principle that has now been outlawed.  It was &lt;i&gt;always&lt;/i&gt; written in the fine print (which was easy to find and understand IMO) that this is how these offers worked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overall this is fantastic news for most consumers. I have heard horror stories of interest rates being raised on past purchases because of people purchasing retread tires to try to save money. This should put an end to that.  I also have an acquaintance who fell into a vicious circle of CC companies raising rates that led to bankruptcy.  It might have been prevented through a law like this. </p>
<p>This item sounds like a great idea: &#8220;Credit card can’t choose to move your payment to the lower interest one letting the high interest accumulate.&#8221;  However, that is what zero interest (or super low interest) balance transfers/checks were all about. I used these smartly &#8212; to obtain free money.  If I used one of those offers to make a large purchase, that CC went into the safe until that balance was paid off.  However, this law may put an end to these offers because the ROI to the CC companies was based upon this principle that has now been outlawed.  It was <i>always</i> written in the fine print (which was easy to find and understand IMO) that this is how these offers worked.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/credit-card-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-119419</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hated the way that they applied payments to lower interest rates first. I always had a card with a lower interest rate on balance transfers on it and knowing that I was paying the 3% portion off before the 12% portion really angered me. Come to think of it, that must have been the reason they offered me to transfer a balance to begin with!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hated the way that they applied payments to lower interest rates first. I always had a card with a lower interest rate on balance transfers on it and knowing that I was paying the 3% portion off before the 12% portion really angered me. Come to think of it, that must have been the reason they offered me to transfer a balance to begin with!</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha just kidding, I think the cc industry brought this upon themselves. Universal default might be borderline shady but double cycle billing is absolute [bullpoop]... Too bad it took so long to get this done and it&#039;ll be until July of 2010 before it&#039;s enforced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha just kidding, I think the cc industry brought this upon themselves. Universal default might be borderline shady but double cycle billing is absolute [bullpoop]&#8230; Too bad it took so long to get this done and it&#8217;ll be until July of 2010 before it&#8217;s enforced.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.</description>
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		<title>By: David Wynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Wynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m amazed that the news of Universal Default ending hasn&#039;t been more widespread. That&#039;s probably going to affect a lot of people in a very consumer-friendly way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m amazed that the news of Universal Default ending hasn&#8217;t been more widespread. That&#8217;s probably going to affect a lot of people in a very consumer-friendly way.</p>
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